Hit and Run

[DannyR]

Hi All,

Boss has been hit today.

Scenario is: He was waiting in his car at the gates for them to open. The office grounds are beside a main road with a 40mph limit. There is enough room on the driveway for a car to be completely off the road whilst waiting for them to open.

Whilst waiting some berk in a flatbed transit van mounts the grass verge and slams into the side of him, pushing the car to the far side of the driveway. The van driver gets out to see if the boss was ok. After which he says he is going to turn round, he instead fks off! (luckily we got the number plate)

Now there is quite a bit of damage and this van managed to leave the road in order to hit the boss. How long should the police take to come out and investigate something like this?

[Dwight VanDriver]

Depends Danny how they prioritise.

From what you say if immediate response what will they get?. The culprit had long gone so they can amble to deal. Behind the scene the VRM you took no doubt circulated to patrols to see if they can stop. Otherwise it is enquiries down the line I am afraid.

Durham/Northumbia not too bad on these matters?

dvd

[evolution666]

straight away.


in cases like this, always say you were injured, even if you are not, damage to 3rd party property comes under civil law, injury to a fellow human is criminal.



(please note the above has NOTHING to do with what you tell the insurance company)

[R_U_LOCAL]

evolution666 said:

straight away.


in cases like this, always say you were injured, even if you are not

Why would you lie?

Incidents are graded by importance, and by lying about having injuries, you could be taking Police resources away from more serious matters.

It's a fail-to-stop accident which happened on a road, and the Police will deal with it, but there's no need to guild the lilly.

[MK4 Slowride]

Sounds like no insurance, tax, licence. One or all three.

[DannyR]

Cheers Dwight, this seems to make the most sense rather than lying etc etc.

Luckily its just a case of the boss was shaken up, so no injuries etc, it was the guy driving off which really wound us up.

Havent had a bad experience of Durham force yet, hopefully they shall continue their good service.


With regard to Mk4, i checked that database thingy which was posted in a previous thread. The number plate came up as insured and matched the vehicle, but that is my feeling that there is something fishy, possibly drink, drugs? who knows.

Edited by DannyR on Monday 29th October 16:28

[evolution666]

R_U_LOCAL said:

evolution666 said:

straight away.


in cases like this, always say you were injured, even if you are not

Why would you lie?

Incidents are graded by importance, and by lying about having injuries, you could be taking Police resources away from more serious matters.

It's a fail-to-stop accident which happened on a road, and the Police will deal with it, but there's no need to guild the lilly.

why would i lie, cos i was told to lie thats why, by an officer of the law, #


i was in a car that got hit and someone was hurt, this wasnt highlighted at the time and it took the police over 24 hrs to come to deal with it, car was wrote off and had to be recovered, quite serious all in all. We were then told what to say when they came out and realiesed how serious the incident had been, it wasnt put accross in the initial call.....


if there over stretched, i fail to see how thats my problem, if someone smashes my property i will do what ever it takes to get the situation sorted, time dialutes things, asap is the only way forwards for me im affraid, rightly or wrongly

[R_U_LOCAL]

evolution666 said:

if there over stretched, i fail to see how thats my problem, if someone smashes my property i will do what ever it takes to get the situation sorted, time dialutes things, asap is the only way forwards for me im affraid, rightly or wrongly

If you're prepared to lie in order to get a faster Police response, I'd be prepared to take you to the more serious incident to which an emergency response was delayed, and get you to explain to the victims why you felt your needs are more important than theirs.

There are always finite resources in the Police, and the job of the control room staff is to prioritise incidents to make best use of resources.

What makes you think you're deserving of special treatment?

[evolution666]

and i would be more than happy to take that risk, ad rather that than be out of pocket, highly unlikely i would ever recieve a custodial sentance for that




if i was speeding, they would be on me in a flash, why, cos it generates cash directly for the fource


by someone comiting damage to 3rd party property, it does not generate any income at all, its complete expenditure, therefore goes right to the back of the que.....




what gives the police the right to say its ok to have 2 coppers hiding in a bush all day with a hairdryer is justified when they could be out easing the pressure on the less serious crimes such as hit and run, i say less serious because you say they prioritise things correctly......

Edited by evolution666 on Monday 29th October 16:43

[R_U_LOCAL]

So you'd be happy for an ambulance to be called to deal with your ficticious injuries too then?

[evolution666]

R_U_LOCAL said:

So you'd be happy for an ambulance to be called to deal with your ficticious injuries too then?

that would all depend on the seriousness of the incident, but when making a call to the emergency services, av never used 999 yet, its always been directly to the local station and when isked are there any injuries that require imediat medical attention, the reply is and would be "not imediate, no"


unless infact there were injuries that required attention

[FiveStar]

evolution666 said:

what gives the police the right to say its ok to have 2 coppers hiding in a bush all day with a hairdryer is justified when they could be out easing the pressure on the less serious crimes such as hit and run, i say less serious because you say they prioritise things correctly......

Edited by evolution666 on Monday 29th October 16:43

I have to agree I would also be prepared to lie in order to get the police to attend quicker.

Maybe get some of those Super's out from behind there desks if you resources are low!

Edited by FiveStar on Monday 29th October 16:54

[R_U_LOCAL]

FiveStar said:

evolution666 said:

what gives the police the right to say its ok to have 2 coppers hiding in a bush all day with a hairdryer is justified when they could be out easing the pressure on the less serious crimes such as hit and run, i say less serious because you say they prioritise things correctly......

Edited by evolution666 on Monday 29th October 16:43

I have to agree I would also be prepared to lie in order to get the police to attend quicker.

Where would this stop though? Everyone lying to get a faster response? We'd never know how to grade incidents and we'd be running around like idiots all day.

I don't think you can comprehend the idiocy of lying for those reasons.

Remember the little boy who cried wolf?

[Bing o]

R_U_LOCAL said:

FiveStar said:

evolution666 said:

what gives the police the right to say its ok to have 2 coppers hiding in a bush all day with a hairdryer is justified when they could be out easing the pressure on the less serious crimes such as hit and run, i say less serious because you say they prioritise things correctly......

Edited by evolution666 on Monday 29th October 16:43

I have to agree I would also be prepared to lie in order to get the police to attend quicker.

Where would this stop though? Everyone lying to get a faster response? We'd never know how to grade incidents and we'd be running around like idiots all day.

I don't think you can comprehend the idiocy of lying for those reasons.

Remember the little boy who cried wolf?

So lets say the driver was pissed, unibsured, unlicensed - you'd not count that as being serious enough to call for an immediate response and the chance to take a death trap off the road?

[R_U_LOCAL]

Bing o said:

So lets say the driver was pissed, unibsured, unlicensed - you'd not count that as being serious enough to call for an immediate response and the chance to take a death trap off the road?

Yes, of course I would, so would anyone with half a brain, and that's a straightforward assumption to make about a driver who has failed to stop.

But it's not lying about ficticious injuries, is it?

[evolution666]

R_U_LOCAL said:

FiveStar said:

evolution666 said:

what gives the police the right to say its ok to have 2 coppers hiding in a bush all day with a hairdryer is justified when they could be out easing the pressure on the less serious crimes such as hit and run, i say less serious because you say they prioritise things correctly......

Edited by evolution666 on Monday 29th October 16:43

I have to agree I would also be prepared to lie in order to get the police to attend quicker.

Where would this stop though? Everyone lying to get a faster response? We'd never know how to grade incidents and we'd be running around like idiots all day.

I don't think you can comprehend the idiocy of lying for those reasons.

Remember the little boy who cried wolf?

i gather from your high n mighty tone that you are in fact summit to do with the law. Dont talk down at me, with ur idiocy comments. As above, the van could have been stolen and not yet reported, it could have a dead body in the back from a murder being committed.....

fact of the matter is, police take a light view of property being damaged, i however do not, and since i pay more tax than the national average wage, i want something done about crimes being commited by the services for which im funding, simple as that, no ifs, no buts......

Edited by evolution666 on Monday 29th October 17:10

[FiveStar]

evolution666 said:

R_U_LOCAL said:

FiveStar said:

evolution666 said:

what gives the police the right to say its ok to have 2 coppers hiding in a bush all day with a hairdryer is justified when they could be out easing the pressure on the less serious crimes such as hit and run, i say less serious because you say they prioritise things correctly......

Edited by evolution666 on Monday 29th October 16:43

I have to agree I would also be prepared to lie in order to get the police to attend quicker.

Where would this stop though? Everyone lying to get a faster response? We'd never know how to grade incidents and we'd be running around like idiots all day.

I don't think you can comprehend the idiocy of lying for those reasons.

Remember the little boy who cried wolf?

i gather from your high n mighty tone that you are in fact summit to do with the law. Dont talk down at me, with ur idiocy comments. As above, the van could have been stolen and not yet reported, it could have a dead body in the back from a murder being committed.....

fact of the matter is, police take a light view of property being damaged, i however do not, and since i pay more tax than the national average wage, i want something done about crimes being commited by the services for which im funding, simple as that, no ifs, no buts......

Edited by evolution666 on Monday 29th October 17:10

Exactly there are always going to be other incidents (as well as new ones being called in) so how long excatly do we have to wait for a response? Or do you just give a CRN if it hasnt been dealt with in 24hrs!!??

[Mr2Mike]

evolution666 said:

fact of the matter is, police take a light view of property being damaged,

They take quite a dim view of lying through your teeth as well.

[R_U_LOCAL]

evolution666 said:

i gather from your high n mighty tone that you are in fact summit to do with the law. Dont talk down at me, with ur idiocy comments. As above, the van could have been stolen and not yet reported, it could have a dead body in the back from a murder being committed.....

fact of the matter is, police take a light view of property being damaged, i however do not, and since i pay more tax than double the national average wage, i want something done about crimes being commited by the services for which im funding, simple as that, no ifs, no buts......

I'm very impressed by your tax bill.

However, it doesn't change the fact that you're prepared to lie in order to obtain a faster response.

You'd probably be shocked if you knew how few Officers were on duty in your local area at the moment.

Those Officer's time has to be managed effectively and they have to be deployed efficiently. If a non-injury FTS accident is the only incident occurring at the time, there's no reason why you wouldn't get an immediate response.

If, however, there is a violent domestic, a burglary in progress, and a (genuine) injury accident ongoing at the same time, then the non-injury accident (quite rightly) drops down the priority list a bit.

If you lie and state that there are injuries, then vital resources will have to be redirected from more important incidents.

Get it?

[FiveStar]

^But what if there are two incidents of the same priority? Where do you go? How do you prioritse? i.e. is a case of domestic violence higher than a injury RTA?