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.... Oh dear police car drove into us last night.
Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
babelfish said:
.... Oh dear police car drove into us last night.
Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
I suppose the moral is to leave enough space in front of you to make it possible for you to pull out if someone parks too near your backside...Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
babelfish said:
.... Oh dear police car drove into us last night.
Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
Clearly the bike's fault for being an inanimate object parked legally by the kerb.Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
esselte said:
babelfish said:
.... Oh dear police car drove into us last night.
Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
I suppose the moral is to leave enough space in front of you to make it possible for you to pull out if someone parks too near your backside...Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF

What a specious arguement.
There's no excuse for hitting another parked car (or bike), however close they've parked to you. However if they've parked in such a way that it's impossible for you to manoeuvre, then that's obstruction, surely?
Comments?
wendyg said:
esselte said:
babelfish said:
.... Oh dear police car drove into us last night.
Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
I suppose the moral is to leave enough space in front of you to make it possible for you to pull out if someone parks too near your backside...Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF

What a specious arguement.
There's no excuse for hitting another parked car (or bike), however close they've parked to you. However if they've parked in such a way that it's impossible for you to manoeuvre, then that's obstruction, surely?
Comments?
esselte said:
wendyg said:
esselte said:
babelfish said:
.... Oh dear police car drove into us last night.
Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
I suppose the moral is to leave enough space in front of you to make it possible for you to pull out if someone parks too near your backside...Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF

What a specious arguement.
There's no excuse for hitting another parked car (or bike), however close they've parked to you. However if they've parked in such a way that it's impossible for you to manoeuvre, then that's obstruction, surely?
Comments?
The suggestion that babelfish was at fault for not leaving enough space in the first place is ridiculous.
Hi and from the other post . . me
I guess you would have been responsible . .
In my posts case if the police car had been in place before she reversed then yes it would have been her fault.
In your case if you hadn't been able to get out of the space without moving the bike then I would have moved it.
I would have done my best not to damage the bike when doing so but know from my years of biking that its easy to drop a bike that you are wheeling about so I wouldn't have shed too many tears if it had fallen over.
I guess you would have been responsible . .
In my posts case if the police car had been in place before she reversed then yes it would have been her fault.
In your case if you hadn't been able to get out of the space without moving the bike then I would have moved it.
I would have done my best not to damage the bike when doing so but know from my years of biking that its easy to drop a bike that you are wheeling about so I wouldn't have shed too many tears if it had fallen over.
babelfish said:
.... Oh dear police car drove into us last night.
Returned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
If you had hit you should have left a note explaining the situation and the laws of cause and effect, that is if the biker parks in such a manner as to endanger his vehicle then it is quite likely that his bike would be driven over and damaged severely and also include your current address and name which should be P.O.Box WaziristanReturned to my car this evening and someone had parked a motorbike in the space between my car and the car behind.
Having approached my car from behind I knew it was there, and the rear parking sensors told me it was there, and I could just about drive out forwards without hitting anything.
However, I could not see it in my rear view mirror (even though it's only a BMW 330 Touring) and it had been parked ridiculously closely. If I didn't know it was there I would have reversed slightly in order to pull out forward with more clearance.
If I had reversed into it and hit it would I have been liable?
BF
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Edited by SLCZ3 on Wednesday 31st October 08:55
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