Severe threats for minor mistake in rubbish disposal

[skymaster]

I recently took a load of rubbish down to my local tip in the car. One hour later two thuggish louts banged on the door holding council enforcement ID cards. They abruptly and rudely stated that I had been caught on CCTV committing a criminal offence (No really this is 100% true) by dumping business waste in a residential recycling tip. They took momentous joy in stating that it carries a 6 months jail term and up 20k fine!

They had been through my rubbish with a fine toothcombe to unearth an envelope with a company name on it. I run a small business from home.

They ranted on about having CCTV of my car reg and that they would be passing my details onto the police if I was caught again.

Can anyone shed any realistic light on this? I can accept that the illegal dumping of rubbish can carry a jail term but unless I have been asleep for 50 years I would think no court in the land would even consider a case like this???? Any thoughts or comments welcome...

[stara]

a simple "go fcuk yourself and get off my property" followed by a door in the face usually does the trick for nazi-esque council workers. illegal dumping of an envelope in a rubbish tip mmmmmkay.

[Ean218]

I have been turned away from the tip when dumping heaps of trade magazines in the paper recycling section.

I still get rid of work paperwork in my home recycling bin but wouldn't be at all surprised to get a similar visit to yours.

The really bad news is that I'm sure someone at some point will get a tug for this and I don't think the courts would have any leeway but to find against the miscreant.

[crankedup]

Seems to me that so many so called 'enforcement officers' parade around that any Tom, Dick, Harry can bung on a yellow coat,peak cap and make up a fancy little I.D. card and call themselves whatever. I have a name for this ilk but I won't type it on here.

[Richard C]

skymaster said:

I recently took a load of rubbish down to my local tip in the car. One hour later two thuggish louts banged on the door holding council enforcement ID cards. They abruptly and rudely stated that I had been caught on CCTV committing a criminal offence (No really this is 100% true) by dumping business waste in a residential recycling tip. They took momentous joy in stating that it carries a 6 months jail term and up 20k fine!

They had been through my rubbish with a fine toothcombe to unearth an envelope with a company name on it. I run a small business from home.

They ranted on about having CCTV of my car reg and that they would be passing my details onto the police if I was caught again.

Can anyone shed any realistic light on this? I can accept that the illegal dumping of rubbish can carry a jail term but unless I have been asleep for 50 years I would think no court in the land would even consider a case like this???? Any thoughts or comments welcome...

I have been struggling to understand why around North East Wales, in the last 18 months everyone at every hotel, bar, restaurant is Eastern European. OK service is somewhat improved but....What happened to all the locals who used to do these jobs? What activity on earth could have suddenly emerged to soak up all these service industry workers ?

Now it is all clear - sifting through rubbish and threatening flytippers - coupled with dog wardens on bonus for detecting smoking in truck cabs and cigarette butt dumping.

Thanks for this insightful glimpse

[skymaster]

Well after their visit I had to remind my self that I was living in britain and not East Germany before the wall came down. It is utterly disgusting.

I have always just taken rubbish down the tip and never thought anything of it. Needless to say I wont ever go down there again.

[Piglet]

Shred it first - let's see them put that back together

[The Griffalo]

Take the labels off and fly tip it in future. 'em!

[paddy27]

The Griffalo said:

Take the labels off and fly tip it in future. 'em!

Thats the outcome of this will be. fly tipping is on the increase already with fortnightly collections and if they try and charge for your bins and the tip then people will just shred everything and then dump it in the local back road somewhere.

Fing mini Hitlers the lot of them.

[Scraggles]

tend to shred all my official paperwork, I work from home but work for a company, suspect they should pay for and take the waste, but that would mean having to goto the office all the time and try to avoid it, shredded paper in the green bin with all the other rubbish, best of luck finding stuff. cross shredded as well

had the recycling muppets round checking my green bin, pointed to the sign on the door of no cold callers, but they work for the council so is ok

seems am recycling the wrong sorts of plastics and should really throw most of my recylables into the landfill bin, but find it easier to chuck stuff that could be recycled into the green bin instead

[skymaster]

After this experience everything will be shreded. Just from a privacy point of view I dont want those monkeys looking at any of my paperwork. I was thinking about writing a letter of complaint. I could save 34pence by putting the letter in the bin instead of the post. They will be sure to see it! They are like little Hitlers. I just thank those working in police recruitment for their sterling work in rejecting them.

[streaky]

stara said:

a simple "go fcuk yourself and get off my property" followed by a door in the face usually does the trick for nazi-esque council workers. illegal dumping of an envelope in a rubbish tip mmmmmkay.

Invite them in, then light up a ciggy (even if you ddon't smoke) ... they don't like that at all - Streaky

[Triple7]

skymaster said:

After this experience everything will be shreded. Just from a privacy point of view I dont want those monkeys looking at any of my paperwork. I was thinking about writing a letter of complaint. I could save 34pence by putting the letter in the bin instead of the post. They will be sure to see it! They are like little Hitlers. I just thank those working in police recruitment for their sterling work in rejecting them.

I would write a formal letter of complaint. Check out what is their definition of business waste, I don't think a single envelope counts. These oiks need to be controlled.

G

[Henry-F]

I too can see why it would be tempting to go with the flytipping option as well just to spite the council. Here in Bucks it`s a very common crime & one that not only decimates the landscape but also promotes fear in the community in the same way graffiti does. But when councils make it so hard to dispose of rubbish legitimately it`s little wonder people do it, not to save £50 or £100 but because they simply can`t get access to legal disposal sites.

The mind boggles, on the one hand we are told to re-cycle, on the other we are chastised for trying. The great British bonfire will be on the up & up then. How does that fare with the enviromental lobby?

The reality is that whilst government at both a national and local level pay lip service to re-cycling and derive revenue in the name of re-cycling it is actually very hard to get your stuff re-cycled on a single batch (especially if it`s quite sizable in the case of the load of old magazines).

Henry

[ExPat2B]

Here is a simple way of dealing with these types.

Don't open the door.

Ask them to post their ID through the door. Burn the ID. Then ask them again. Deny having ever seen the ID, then phone their head office with them standing on the steps and claim a man without ID is impersonating one of their Employees.

[Cooperman]

ExPat2B said:

Here is a simple way of dealing with these types.

Don't open the door.

Ask them to post their ID through the door. Burn the ID. Then ask them again. Deny having ever seen the ID, then phone their head office with them standing on the steps and claim a man without ID is impersonating one of their Employees.

Yes, yes, yes!!!

[paddy27]

Cooperman said:

ExPat2B said:

Here is a simple way of dealing with these types.

Don't open the door.

Ask them to post their ID through the door. Burn the ID. Then ask them again. Deny having ever seen the ID, then phone their head office with them standing on the steps and claim a man without ID is impersonating one of their Employees.

yes, yes, yes!!!

That i like a lot.

[Lostusernamedamn]

There's another tactic which could be employed...put within the rubbish an evelope bearing the address of the head of this absurd "enforcement" department... ...oh to be a fly on the wall...

[fat tony]

Just burn it like I do, makes up for the times I can't use my car! Shredding is the next best thing

[E36GUY]

It is ridiculous but I read a story about a bird who got charged with the same for putting a business envelope in a public litterbin. She got the mail from home and read it while walking to the station and then putting it in the bin. Some jobsworth made a fuss. Think it got thrown out though.

My opinion would be to tell them to go themselves and if it escalates get the media involved.