Step into the light Meredydd Hughes.
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Come on Meredydd, embrace the light, embrace the truth.
Just state "Arbitrary speed limits are oppressive and useless" and all your many and manifest sins will be forgiven.
You may squint and blink for a moment or two when you step out of the dark mire of lies where you have lived so long but you will bask in the brilliant light of truth forever thereafter.
It is only a small step to salvation Meredydd, take it before you are cast forever into the pit of ridicule and contempt.
Step into the light Meredydd, before it fades from your grasp, never to return.
Just state "Arbitrary speed limits are oppressive and useless" and all your many and manifest sins will be forgiven.
You may squint and blink for a moment or two when you step out of the dark mire of lies where you have lived so long but you will bask in the brilliant light of truth forever thereafter.
It is only a small step to salvation Meredydd, take it before you are cast forever into the pit of ridicule and contempt.
Step into the light Meredydd, before it fades from your grasp, never to return.
WildCat said:
DPX said:
"Step into the light Meredydd"
I think he may have driven into it by mistake , and it flashed twice
It was a mobile thingy what zapped him. I think he may have driven into it by mistake , and it flashed twice
Usually place.. behind a hedge. in all probability. But he still should have known he on one lucrative stretch all the same. CommanderJameson said:
WildCat said:
DPX said:
"Step into the light Meredydd"
I think he may have driven into it by mistake , and it flashed twice
It was a mobile thingy what zapped him. I think he may have driven into it by mistake , and it flashed twice
Usually place.. behind a hedge. in all probability. But he still should have known he on one lucrative stretch all the same. The one behind the sign then. 
I think one of the kittens took photo once as we teach them all they need to know about 
from an early age 
He should have an origin or similar "Gatso-blaster"
WildCat said:
Ach! It was that one. The one behind the sign then. I think one of the kittens took photo once as we teach them all they need to know about driving from an early age.
He should have an origin or similar "Gatso-blaster"
Or perhaps, as he's an ACPO member (or was at the time) he should practice what he preaches.He should have an origin or similar "Gatso-blaster"
CommanderJameson said:
No, it was a fixed camera.
Maybe I'm off message here - but I don't know any fixed camera that doesn't have a roadside sign placed before it warning of its presence. There he is barrelling along at 90mph fails to see the signa and fails to see the bright yellow box. At 30 over the limit, it is exactly that lack of skill that plays to the "speed kills" lobby. He should be banned for being a rubbish driver. No wonder he has stood down - he isn't qualified.bluepolarbear said:
CommanderJameson said:
No, it was a fixed camera.
Maybe I'm off message here - but I don't know any fixed camera that doesn't have a roadside sign placed before it warning of its presence. There he is barrelling along at 90mph fails to see the signa and fails to see the bright yellow box. At 30 over the limit, it is exactly that lack of skill that plays to the "speed kills" lobby. He should be banned for being a rubbish driver. No wonder he has stood down - he isn't qualified.As to roadsigns bpb, you are right up to a point - under the old hypothecation scheme, it was necessary to have a roadsign within 1 km of the site. Here in N Wales there are thousands of signs everywhere so that the presence of a sign has no meaning.
I know the bridge they sit on at Chirk. In fact in 2002 I got three points for doing 72mph on the hill going up underneath that bridge. It has two lanes going up, one lane going down. Just because there are two lanes does not mean its a dual carriageway - as I learned to my cost. The limit was 60mph and I drove past them without a care...but got a nice bill in the post. Arse.
Got another three points just recently on the A5025 near Dulas on the Isle of Anglesey.
North Wales: It really is as bad as they say from a speed enforcement point of view. Personally I wouldn't go except that my old Mum still lives there...
Got another three points just recently on the A5025 near Dulas on the Isle of Anglesey.
North Wales: It really is as bad as they say from a speed enforcement point of view. Personally I wouldn't go except that my old Mum still lives there...
I am amazed that a senior policemen, (the acpco speed spokesman no less) thinks that whilst in "taliban territory" can safely exceed the 60 mph speed limit by 30mph.
This inferrs either a crass stupidy, or a total arrogance.
Perhaps he thought it could all be resolved at the next "lodge" meeting.
The moment that he had the nip he should have resigned as spokesperson rather than as the acpco professed "stepped down", and anyway it wasent serious since it was 8.30 am.!!!
I must remenber this defence next time!
This inferrs either a crass stupidy, or a total arrogance.
Perhaps he thought it could all be resolved at the next "lodge" meeting.
The moment that he had the nip he should have resigned as spokesperson rather than as the acpco professed "stepped down", and anyway it wasent serious since it was 8.30 am.!!!
I must remenber this defence next time!
Richard C said:
bluepolarbear said:
CommanderJameson said:
No, it was a fixed camera.
Maybe I'm off message here - but I don't know any fixed camera that doesn't have a roadside sign placed before it warning of its presence. There he is barrelling along at 90mph fails to see the signa and fails to see the bright yellow box. At 30 over the limit, it is exactly that lack of skill that plays to the "speed kills" lobby. He should be banned for being a rubbish driver. No wonder he has stood down - he isn't qualified.As to roadsigns bpb, you are right up to a point - under the old hypothecation scheme, it was necessary to have a roadsign within 1 km of the site. Here in N Wales there are thousands of signs everywhere so that the presence of a sign has no meaning.
But the fixed one was there in 2005-6. behind rectangular road sign. Tell tale marks on road there. Not been there this year. We did note that scams once on A5/A55 Bangor area had vanished when we make trip last May. We know there was fixed Gatso around Chirk in 2006. We not visited Chirk in 2007.
But even so.. he want hidden scam. he get copped then by one
He should lead by example in any case. OK.. Know this not always possible. but known scam infest zones warrant vigilance all the same vonhosen said:
It's an often used defence (excuse) here.
Along with the weather was good, there wasn't much traffic etc etc.
Yes, but it's not deployed by those who approve of limits and their enforcement.Along with the weather was good, there wasn't much traffic etc etc.
I have no problem with Meredydd Hughes or anyone else doing 90mph on a clear road in good conditions unless they also pontificate about speed limits...
He needs sacked from the police for dishonesty and hypocrisy, neither he nor anyone else should be punished for speeding.
fluffnik said:
vonhosen said:
It's an often used defence (excuse) here.
Along with the weather was good, there wasn't much traffic etc etc.
Yes, but it's not deployed by those who approve of limits and their enforcement.Along with the weather was good, there wasn't much traffic etc etc.
They say it as mitigation though, as opposed to defence, because they know they shouldn't have been doing what they were doing & it isn't a defence.
vonhosen said:
fluffnik said:
vonhosen said:
It's an often used defence (excuse) here.
Along with the weather was good, there wasn't much traffic etc etc.
Yes, but it's not deployed by those who approve of limits and their enforcement.Along with the weather was good, there wasn't much traffic etc etc.
vonhosen said:
They say it as mitigation though, as opposed to defence, because they know they shouldn't have been doing what they were doing & it isn't a defence.
That's the problem with arbitrary and oppressive laws; doing no wrong is no defence.fluffnik said:
vonhosen said:
fluffnik said:
vonhosen said:
It's an often used defence (excuse) here.
Along with the weather was good, there wasn't much traffic etc etc.
Yes, but it's not deployed by those who approve of limits and their enforcement.Along with the weather was good, there wasn't much traffic etc etc.
fluffnik said:
vonhosen said:
They say it as mitigation though, as opposed to defence, because they know they shouldn't have been doing what they were doing & it isn't a defence.
That's the problem with arbitrary and oppressive laws; doing no wrong is no defence.Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff