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Noting on some threads here that bib may confiscate your mobile phone for checking, if they believe that use of said phone perhaps contributed to an accident.
Can you insist that they give you your sim card? After all it's the phone's memory they need to interrogate, surely the sim card has no bearing on this, and then it shouldn't matter too much how long they hang on to the phone.
Can you insist that they give you your sim card? After all it's the phone's memory they need to interrogate, surely the sim card has no bearing on this, and then it shouldn't matter too much how long they hang on to the phone.
sjtscott said:
The SIM card doesn't hold your telephone number directly.. the SIM card serial number is 'associated' with your telephone number by the provider network.
You can simply get another SIM card associated with your number by your provider network.
true but it takes 48 hours minimum to get your PUK code from your provider and then at least a week to switch it over.You can simply get another SIM card associated with your number by your provider network.
been there, done that, one provider took over a week just to get the PUK code.
hemibum said:
Noting on some threads here that bib may confiscate your mobile phone for checking, if they believe that use of said phone perhaps contributed to an accident.
Can you insist that they give you your sim card? After all it's the phone's memory they need to interrogate, surely the sim card has no bearing on this, and then it shouldn't matter too much how long they hang on to the phone.
No - the Police can seize anything (with a few exemptions relating to legal papers) if they believe it may be evidence of an offence.Can you insist that they give you your sim card? After all it's the phone's memory they need to interrogate, surely the sim card has no bearing on this, and then it shouldn't matter too much how long they hang on to the phone.
You could always ask, of course, but the answer would probably be no.
R_U_LOCAL said:
hemibum said:
Noting on some threads here that bib may confiscate your mobile phone for checking, if they believe that use of said phone perhaps contributed to an accident.
Can you insist that they give you your sim card? After all it's the phone's memory they need to interrogate, surely the sim card has no bearing on this, and then it shouldn't matter too much how long they hang on to the phone.
No - the Police can seize anything (with a few exemptions relating to legal papers) if they believe it may be evidence of an offence.Can you insist that they give you your sim card? After all it's the phone's memory they need to interrogate, surely the sim card has no bearing on this, and then it shouldn't matter too much how long they hang on to the phone.
You could always ask, of course, but the answer would probably be no.
Make sure you have a security key lock on the phone so they cannot access anything without having this entered.
Most forms of software that are available to them to remove this will only wipe the phones memory anyway.
If they want to be really clever they can contact the networks direct to obtail a call log from them of calls made and received, but i beleive it takes a lot of time and money for them to do,
So unless you've killed someone i dont really see this as being an option for a petty motoring offence.
Most forms of software that are available to them to remove this will only wipe the phones memory anyway.
If they want to be really clever they can contact the networks direct to obtail a call log from them of calls made and received, but i beleive it takes a lot of time and money for them to do,
So unless you've killed someone i dont really see this as being an option for a petty motoring offence.
Edited by ineedagallardo on Thursday 1st November 17:40
new law was recently passed that says you have to give the fuzz your access codes if requested, prison sentence if you dont.
which is another bullshit law in its own right as an example, terrorist fails to give passcode, gets about 5 years max for witholding the code, or 15 years for terrorism?
not sure who that helps tbh, certainly not us, anywonder we are loosing faith in the system?
which is another bullshit law in its own right as an example, terrorist fails to give passcode, gets about 5 years max for witholding the code, or 15 years for terrorism?
not sure who that helps tbh, certainly not us, anywonder we are loosing faith in the system?
DucatiGary said:
sjtscott said:
The SIM card doesn't hold your telephone number directly.. the SIM card serial number is 'associated' with your telephone number by the provider network.
You can simply get another SIM card associated with your number by your provider network.
true but it takes 48 hours minimum to get your PUK code from your provider and then at least a week to switch it over.You can simply get another SIM card associated with your number by your provider network.
been there, done that, one provider took over a week just to get the PUK code.
I got a new handset and some of the functions didn't work with my old SIM card, so the guy popped it out, got a new one from a box tapped on his computer and then after copying the sim's memory across he put the new one in and it worked immediatly. No more than 10mins to change a SIM.
mrmr96 said:
DucatiGary said:
sjtscott said:
The SIM card doesn't hold your telephone number directly.. the SIM card serial number is 'associated' with your telephone number by the provider network.
You can simply get another SIM card associated with your number by your provider network.
true but it takes 48 hours minimum to get your PUK code from your provider and then at least a week to switch it over.You can simply get another SIM card associated with your number by your provider network.
been there, done that, one provider took over a week just to get the PUK code.
I got a new handset and some of the functions didn't work with my old SIM card, so the guy popped it out, got a new one from a box tapped on his computer and then after copying the sim's memory across he put the new one in and it worked immediatly. No more than 10mins to change a SIM.
and Ive quoted your admitance just to annoy you since your openly telling the world your breaking the law.
clever guy
DucatiGary said:
Sheriff JWPepper said:
DucatiGary said:
not sure who that helps tbh, certainly not us, anywonder we are loosing faith in the system?
DG, Did you have any faith to lose?or loose
DucatiGary said:
sjtscott said:
The SIM card doesn't hold your telephone number directly.. the SIM card serial number is 'associated' with your telephone number by the provider network.
You can simply get another SIM card associated with your number by your provider network.
true but it takes 48 hours minimum to get your PUK code from your provider and then at least a week to switch it over.You can simply get another SIM card associated with your number by your provider network.
been there, done that, one provider took over a week just to get the PUK code.
DucatiGary said:
new law was recently passed that says you have to give the fuzz your access codes if requested, prison sentence if you dont.
which is another bullshit law in its own right as an example, terrorist fails to give passcode, gets about 5 years max for witholding the code, or 15 years for terrorism?
not sure who that helps tbh, certainly not us, anywonder we are loosing faith in the system?
Really, as the only way of doing that, is if someone was convicted before of something and received an order to keep all passwords in a form accessible to the police. which is another bullshit law in its own right as an example, terrorist fails to give passcode, gets about 5 years max for witholding the code, or 15 years for terrorism?
not sure who that helps tbh, certainly not us, anywonder we are loosing faith in the system?
I didn't think it applied to anyone
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