Video of Plod inventing new laws
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I've always been a fan of the offences against teaspoons act 1987 myself. I'm pretty sure that that includes Sec 18(3) Prohibition of filming of officers whilst in possession of a brummie accent.
In all seriousness though, I think I'd be looking at BOP followed by Sec 136 MHA 1983....
In all seriousness though, I think I'd be looking at BOP followed by Sec 136 MHA 1983....
Edited by WeirdNeville on Saturday 3rd November 20:35
vonhosen said:
He appears to make a habit of trying to engineer these situations.
HahaWell obviously 2 policemen couldn't be in the wrong just because they barge into someone's garden and tell him he can't film them.
It's a real sign of heavy handed policing that they are very opposed to being filmed, to the point that they will resort to blatant thuggery if they think they can get away with it.
I have also heard of camera phones being confiscated and/or broken in scuffles like this. Presumably when there's less day light and sober witnesses around...
AJS- said:
vonhosen said:
He appears to make a habit of trying to engineer these situations.
HahaWell obviously 2 policemen couldn't be in the wrong just because they barge into someone's garden and tell him he can't film them.
It's a real sign of heavy handed policing that they are very opposed to being filmed, to the point that they will resort to blatant thuggery if they think they can get away with it.
I have also heard of camera phones being confiscated and/or broken in scuffles like this. Presumably when there's less day light and sober witnesses around...
vonhosen said:
AJS- said:
vonhosen said:
He appears to make a habit of trying to engineer these situations.
HahaWell obviously 2 policemen couldn't be in the wrong just because they barge into someone's garden and tell him he can't film them.
It's a real sign of heavy handed policing that they are very opposed to being filmed, to the point that they will resort to blatant thuggery if they think they can get away with it.
I have also heard of camera phones being confiscated and/or broken in scuffles like this. Presumably when there's less day light and sober witnesses around...
Bing o said:
vonhosen said:
AJS- said:
vonhosen said:
He appears to make a habit of trying to engineer these situations.
HahaWell obviously 2 policemen couldn't be in the wrong just because they barge into someone's garden and tell him he can't film them.
It's a real sign of heavy handed policing that they are very opposed to being filmed, to the point that they will resort to blatant thuggery if they think they can get away with it.
I have also heard of camera phones being confiscated and/or broken in scuffles like this. Presumably when there's less day light and sober witnesses around...
vonhosen said:
I don't object to it at all. I wish all my encounters were recorded, would do more to help than hinder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uFq1nBhHtwFishFace said:
There's nothing worse than Police who don't know the law. They should show this clip at training school to hammer that point home.
In fairness, they did the right thing and checked with the Sarge. Noone gets it right all the time.If they were truly awful cops and the regime were as bad as some would like to believe, they'd have arrested him and dumped the body before the custody sergeant got the chance to correct them. We dn't - thankfully - live i na place like that, and we can watch videos of the Police - and many other people - making mistakes.
Von - if every moment of your life were recorded, what access controls would you like in place on who could access that recording?
7db said:
FishFace said:
There's nothing worse than Police who don't know the law. They should show this clip at training school to hammer that point home.
In fairness, they did the right thing and checked with the Sarge. Noone gets it right all the time.If they were truly awful cops and the regime were as bad as some would like to believe, they'd have arrested him and dumped the body before the custody sergeant got the chance to correct them. We dn't - thankfully - live i na place like that, and we can watch videos of the Police - and many other people - making mistakes.
Von - if every moment of your life were recorded, what access controls would you like in place on who could access that recording?
I don't care about being recorded in public or doing my job.
As it is a lot of that happens anyway.
Sainsbury's will have me on video having just been shopping in their store & I have driven past local authority cameras on the way home.
Do I care ?
Not in the slightest.
Edited by vonhosen on Sunday 4th November 12:40
I misunderstood that "encounters" should be limited to professional / public encounters. My mistake.
However, even at that level, would it be ok if that was published on the internet for all to view, or would you want some access controls on that After all - if these events too place in a public place, would it be ok to assemble them and make them accessible to the public?
Should we all be able to access images from all the public CCTV cameras? After all, they are publicly-funded cameras recording public places?
I accept that CCTV and surveillance is useful in some crime-reduction, but I think there needs to be more sunlight on who has access to the information and who uses it. For preference, full public access, together with webcams on the operators would be step one. Quis custodiet...
However, even at that level, would it be ok if that was published on the internet for all to view, or would you want some access controls on that After all - if these events too place in a public place, would it be ok to assemble them and make them accessible to the public?
Should we all be able to access images from all the public CCTV cameras? After all, they are publicly-funded cameras recording public places?
I accept that CCTV and surveillance is useful in some crime-reduction, but I think there needs to be more sunlight on who has access to the information and who uses it. For preference, full public access, together with webcams on the operators would be step one. Quis custodiet...
7db said:
We dn't - thankfully - live i na place like that, and we can watch videos of the Police - and many other people - making mistakes.
One of the reasons we don't live in such a place is that there are "trouble makers" like the cameraman here who perhaps do engineer these situations to remind us that we do live in a free country and have the right to keep the police in check.AJS- said:
7db said:
We dn't - thankfully - live i na place like that, and we can watch videos of the Police - and many other people - making mistakes.
One of the reasons we don't live in such a place is that there are "trouble makers" like the cameraman here who perhaps do engineer these situations to remind us that we do live in a free country and have the right to keep the police in check.fluffnik said:
vonhosen said:
He appears to make a habit of trying to engineer these situations.
Pray tell:How did he engineer the police passing opposite his garden gate?
WeirdNeville said:
I've always been a fan of the offences against teaspoons act 1987 myself.
This Act was repealed in 2004 when it was discovered to be incompatible with the HRA. It is the only Act that the Home Secretary admitted was in breach. Nevertheless, under EU Directive 205/34B18-1765098-54AH6.1 it was speedily replaced by the Offences Against the Desert Spoon Act 2005. There is a move to update this to the Offences Against the Salad Server Act, but publication of the Bill is delayed while it is translated into 274 languages and plans are afoot to ensure it is read to the illiterate (i.e many Members of Parliament and most school-leavers) - StreakyForums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff