A13 - camera flashed twice in traffic jam
A13 - camera flashed twice in traffic jam
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silversun

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4,373 posts

257 months

Saturday 10th November 2007
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Sitting in stationary traffic (again) on the A13 between Canning and Beckton the other day, I saw one of the Gatsos behind me flash twice. Seeing as nothing was moving, it was obvious the camera is faulty rather than having been triggered by a car speeding.

So, what happens in these situations? I assume 'they' can see there's a traffic jam from the picture, or do 'they' count on people not remembering and send the fine out anyway then wait for you to contest it?

Mad Moggie2

784 posts

237 months

Saturday 10th November 2007
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silversun said:
Sitting in stationary traffic (again) on the A13 between Canning and Beckton the other day, I saw one of the Gatsos behind me flash twice. Seeing as nothing was moving, it was obvious the camera is faulty rather than having been triggered by a car speeding.

So, what happens in these situations? I assume 'they' can see there's a traffic jam from the picture, or do 'they' count on people not remembering and send the fine out anyway then wait for you to contest it?
Ings. rolleyes


Not so long ago - this scam was flashing and foaming at the mouth. Pinging anything.

Steve claimed on local radio "he was just testing the cam but that anyone over 40 mph would receive a fine and those below the limit would not" rolleyes

This got heated phone calls to BBC Radio Cumbria and I recall reading that their switchboard got jammed at the time - such was the volume of seriously angry calls. wink

Anyway, shorlty after this - my mate Ern whose work takes him past this scam a few times daily posted up on another forum that he saw workmen on this scam a couple of days after this.... and Kevin (one of the Prats (but probably a lot more reasonable and definitely more intelligent than our submarinated pal hehe) was heard on the radio to admit "there had been a technical problem with this scam and that photos would be discarded as a result!" rolleyes

Yep.. they sure work fine don't they scratchchin

silversun

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4,373 posts

257 months

Monday 12th November 2007
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I'm bumping this in the hope of some input from BiB.

smile

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Monday 12th November 2007
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If you were stationary the two photos should prove it!

Probably no ticket. I suppose they might allege and force you to defend. An annoyance.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 12th November 2007
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grumbledoak said:
If you were stationary the two photos should prove it!

Probably no ticket. I suppose they might allege and force you to defend. An annoyance.
Hardly.

Perverting the Course of Justice by them- I'd love one of those little Nazis to try and prosecute me with evidence showing me to be stationary.

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Monday 12th November 2007
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Bing o said:
grumbledoak said:
If you were stationary the two photos should prove it!

Probably no ticket. I suppose they might allege and force you to defend. An annoyance.
Hardly.

Perverting the Course of Justice by them- I'd love one of those little Nazis to try and prosecute me with evidence showing me to be stationary.
But would you see the photos unless you went "not guilty"?

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 12th November 2007
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esselte said:
Bing o said:
grumbledoak said:
If you were stationary the two photos should prove it!

Probably no ticket. I suppose they might allege and force you to defend. An annoyance.
Hardly.

Perverting the Course of Justice by them- I'd love one of those little Nazis to try and prosecute me with evidence showing me to be stationary.
But would you see the photos unless you went "not guilty"?
Exactly - this whole system is a sham, in fact, it is an afront to justice.

Can you think of another crime where you can be charged with an offense without having accesss to the evidence against you before you pled?

AdeTuono

7,626 posts

258 months

Monday 12th November 2007
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I had this with a camera near my place (Dorset Fascists Camera Partnership area). Bus stopped, with a queue of traffic behind. No traffic approaching. And the Gatso went off. Twice.
I wrote to the DFCP and told them what I'd seen, to be told that it was impossible, and that I must have been mistaken.
Makes you wonder, as someone has already pointed out, how many people would just assume they were guilty and sent off their license.

elwe

192 posts

251 months

Monday 12th November 2007
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You will probably get a parking ticket.

Medic-one

3,143 posts

234 months

Monday 12th November 2007
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silversun said:
Seeing as nothing was moving
It doesn't always have to be a vehicle that was moving for the camera to go off....



This duck got flashed on a Dutch road where the maximum speed was 50 km/h and the duck flew by at 64 km/h and got flashed as well biggrin

Edited by Medic-one on Tuesday 13th November 02:23

bi9_jk

883 posts

296 months

Tuesday 13th November 2007
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yeah i think they are going to have a hard job proving this one being the car didnt actually move between the photos. Hope your car was clean.

Davel

8,982 posts

289 months

Tuesday 13th November 2007
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You'll be done for either loitering or kerb crawling...