Police crashing cars for street racing
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Just read this and I can see it being abused loads. Ok if its a fair cop then thats fine but what happens if your on a spirited drive and overtake a car, a few seconds later someone else overtakes that car at speed and crashes. Now to that witness he will say 2 cars went pass at speed and the police could assume that they were racing. I have had this before. I was at a set of light in my supra and accelerated (to the speed limit) very quickly. The chaved up Cavaler tried to do the same and yet I was pulled for racing him! So under this new law my car would be scrapped just because some prat thought he would try and out accelerate me (think the police were a little pi55ed to see a 21 yo in a high performace car).
Whats your thoughts, good idea or potential to get a lot of fast expensive cars off the road.
Whats your thoughts, good idea or potential to get a lot of fast expensive cars off the road.
The "crashing" bit in the title confused me for a sec 
I have no idea what the definition of street racing is. When pulling away from a traffic light, or when two lanes are merging into one and you need/want to accelerate passed the other car - I would not class that as racing, just making progress.
Don't you have to know the other driver for it to be a race?
I have no idea what the definition of street racing is. When pulling away from a traffic light, or when two lanes are merging into one and you need/want to accelerate passed the other car - I would not class that as racing, just making progress.
Don't you have to know the other driver for it to be a race?
Daston said:
Just read this and I can see it being abused loads. Ok if its a fair cop then thats fine but what happens if your on a spirited drive and overtake a car, a few seconds later someone else overtakes that car at speed and crashes. Now to that witness he will say 2 cars went pass at speed and the police could assume that they were racing. I have had this before. I was at a set of light in my supra and accelerated (to the speed limit) very quickly. The chaved up Cavaler tried to do the same and yet I was pulled for racing him! So under this new law my car would be scrapped just because some prat thought he would try and out accelerate me (think the police were a little pi55ed to see a 21 yo in a high performace car).
Whats your thoughts, good idea or potential to get a lot of fast expensive cars off the road.
Do you mean CRUSHING cars?Whats your thoughts, good idea or potential to get a lot of fast expensive cars off the road.
Police are not pi55ed at seeing a 21 year old in a fast car.
They do get pi55ed when that 21 year old delivers a demonstration that outweighs his ability and sense.
Would you have passed your driving test by accelerating hard to the limit away from a set of lights? I think not!
If there is someone in another vehicle that looks as though they may 'take you on' and next to you at the lights, then let them do so and let them get in front. You will not then be accused of anything because you have demonstrated that you are sensible and worthy of sitting behind the wheel of a powerful car at 21 years of age.
Edited by Mg6b on Monday 12th November 13:44
Daston said:
Whats your thoughts, good idea or potential to get a lot of fast expensive cars off the road.
Only if they are being driven by wazzocks.If you can afford the fast car, then you can afford trackdays and driver training to either:
drive like a twazzock on track
not drive like a twazzock on the road.
In my experience, the type of car one can afford to drive does not alway reflect ones true driving abilities...
Daston said:
Sorry they are planning on crashing the cars and filing it and then putting it on the net to prove a point.
I was merly accelerating to make progress (I was breaking no laws as far as I am aware) had no intention of racing him and I didnt spot the plod car.
Do you mean CRUSHING and FILMINGI was merly accelerating to make progress (I was breaking no laws as far as I am aware) had no intention of racing him and I didnt spot the plod car.
As Crashing and Filing is something that the admin units manage to do with monotonous regularity with case papers! Not something that uniformed police would be involved in (mostly!)
Mg6b said:
Daston said:
Sorry they are planning on crashing the cars and filing it and then putting it on the net to prove a point.
I was merly accelerating to make progress (I was breaking no laws as far as I am aware) had no intention of racing him and I didnt spot the plod car.
Do you mean CRUSHING and FILMINGI was merly accelerating to make progress (I was breaking no laws as far as I am aware) had no intention of racing him and I didnt spot the plod car.
As Crashing and Filing is something that the admin units manage to do with monotonous regularity with case papers! Not something that uniformed police would be involved in (mostly!)
I believe the OP is referring to this, from Australia:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22740446-421,...
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22740446-421,...
Mr Iemma said:
These modified, loud and often illegal vehicles confiscated from car hoons will be smashed to pieces in our crash labs, the results filmed and analysed, and the wrecks shown to other young drivers as a warning
i wheel spun off at a set of lights on a hil on my test, oil spillage or somthing, thought id failed at that very point but later the examiner said I showed a calm head and kept everything under control.
so if anything, that probbably helped me pass as i was obviously crap at everything else!
so if anything, that probbably helped me pass as i was obviously crap at everything else!
DucatiGary said:
i wheel spun off at a set of lights on a hil on my test, oil spillage or somthing, thought id failed at that very point but later the examiner said I showed a calm head and kept everything under control.
so if anything, that probbably helped me pass as i was obviously crap at everything else!
Was it in Porsche by any chance?so if anything, that probbably helped me pass as i was obviously crap at everything else!
Why am I not surprised about your incident and the outcome?
Dr Jekyll said:
Mg6b said:
Would you have passed your driving test by accelerating hard to the limit away from a set of lights? I think not!
Would you fail for that?You may fail for being a little too "brutal" - lack of mech' sympathy, but if your car is capable then you should be accelerating at a sensible* rate.
In this day and age, I don't like it when Guv'm'nt gives police officers "discretion" with one hand, whilst taking it away with the other, as this usually ends up with: -
1) disgruntled MoP
2) disgruntled BiB
Still, "if you have nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear"[sic]
Section 59 anyone? (As shit a rule as it is)
[footnote] *yes, I know...
Mg6b said:
Would you have passed your driving test by accelerating hard to the limit away from a set of lights? I think not!
I'm sure I accelerated at full throttle to the limit on several occasions during my test.The fact that my current car probably accelerates harder on 1/4 throttle than the Fiat I passed my test in did flat out is neither here nor there...
Is there a law against leaving the halt-line at 0.5G?
Ever since found out that you can do the test in anything that you're insured on I thought it would be hilarious to do it in something absolutely insane.
When I did it the instructor was a bit unsettled by how quickly my mums mazda did the emergency stop (she has a big brakes kit with 4 pot calipers all round). Imagine the fun if you pitched up in a Radical...
When I did it the instructor was a bit unsettled by how quickly my mums mazda did the emergency stop (she has a big brakes kit with 4 pot calipers all round). Imagine the fun if you pitched up in a Radical...
fluffnik said:
Is there a law against leaving the halt-line at 0.5G?
I expect I could find one without too much difficulty!Driver causing excessive noise springs to mind without researching anywhere.
Driving without due care or reasonable consideration covers two different situations as well.
GT starts are not part of the competency that is assessed by driving examiners in test situations. It is not in the syllabus.
fluffnik said:
Mg6b said:
Would you have passed your driving test by accelerating hard to the limit away from a set of lights? I think not!
I'm sure I accelerated at full throttle to the limit on several occasions during my test.The fact that my current car probably accelerates harder on 1/4 throttle than the Fiat I passed my test in did flat out is neither here nor there...
Is there a law against leaving the halt-line at 0.5G?
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