So, 45 in a 40 and then...
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Minding my own business, with an indicated 45 on the clock (empty road, very early, and 45 indicated = more like 40 real life). Lights approaching from behind, take foot off, and fastard BMW overtakes just 200 yards before the NSL. Game on I thought. This is one of my fave roads & should be fun keeping up when I have a power deficit. WRONG ! BMW man got to a fine series of bends and bottled it. FFS man, if you're gonna overtake, don't hold up FWD drivers who can do the corners faster in the wet than you can in your RWD roller skate. Had the greatest satisfaction of following it to the next 40, where it disappeared into the distance doing about +20 over the limit, then catching it up and passing it and another car at "XX" leptons in the NSL. I then turned right which held him up to my great amusement. Had he not gone past me, he'd have got there faster....
Some questions;-
why do some people think that a "family" car is any less capable than their RWD uber-saloon in the wet?
why do they think it is ok to overtake in a 40 when clearly I was going as fast as legally (ahem) possible?
why can't they maintain good corner speeds once they've gone past???????
Some questions;-
why do some people think that a "family" car is any less capable than their RWD uber-saloon in the wet?
why do they think it is ok to overtake in a 40 when clearly I was going as fast as legally (ahem) possible?
why can't they maintain good corner speeds once they've gone past???????
HertsBiker said:
Minding my own business, with an indicated 45 on the clock (empty road, very early, and 45 indicated = more like 40 real life). Lights approaching from behind, take foot off, and fastard BMW overtakes just 200 yards before the NSL. Game on I thought. This is one of my fave roads & should be fun keeping up when I have a power deficit. WRONG ! BMW man got to a fine series of bends and bottled it. FFS man, if you're gonna overtake, don't hold up FWD drivers who can do the corners faster in the wet than you can in your RWD roller skate. Had the greatest satisfaction of following it to the next 40, where it disappeared into the distance doing about +20 over the limit, then catching it up and passing it and another car at "XX" leptons in the NSL. I then turned right which held him up to my great amusement. Had he not gone past me, he'd have got there faster....
Some questions;-
why do some people think that a "family" car is any less capable than their RWD uber-saloon in the wet?
Perhaps it is.Some questions;-
why do some people think that a "family" car is any less capable than their RWD uber-saloon in the wet?
HertsBiker said:
why do they think it is ok to overtake in a 40 when clearly I was going as fast as legally (ahem) possible?
Disregarding the limit for a moment, were the conditions appropriate for an overtake? They may well have been.HertsBiker said:
why can't they maintain good corner speeds once they've gone past?
Perhaps they were not driving as close to the limits of their vehicle as you. Did you have any grip left in the corners had something not gone as planned?Just playing devil's advocate for a moment, here.
I encounter that sort of behaviour virtually every day.
In 30 limits, (where I do 30), moron will cruise up behind at 40+ and tailgate like crazy.
However, when the 30 changes to NSL, I accelerate up to 60 (conditions permitting) and they become a distant speck in my rear-view mirror. Get to the next 30 limit, where I slow down to 30 again and, in less than a minute/couple of hundred yard, there they are tailgating again.
Either that or they overtake me when I’m doing 30, but then in the NSL sections, I get held up because they’re only doing 45-50.
The situation is even worse in the dark, where they speed up (40+) in street-lit 30s, but slow down for unlit NSLs.
In 30 limits, (where I do 30), moron will cruise up behind at 40+ and tailgate like crazy.
However, when the 30 changes to NSL, I accelerate up to 60 (conditions permitting) and they become a distant speck in my rear-view mirror. Get to the next 30 limit, where I slow down to 30 again and, in less than a minute/couple of hundred yard, there they are tailgating again.
Either that or they overtake me when I’m doing 30, but then in the NSL sections, I get held up because they’re only doing 45-50.
The situation is even worse in the dark, where they speed up (40+) in street-lit 30s, but slow down for unlit NSLs.
Puddenchucker said:
I encounter that sort of behaviour virtually every day.
In 30 limits, (where I do 30), moron will cruise up behind at 40+ and tailgate like crazy.
However, when the 30 changes to NSL, I accelerate up to 60 (conditions permitting) and they become a distant speck in my rear-view mirror. Get to the next 30 limit, where I slow down to 30 again and, in less than a minute/couple of hundred yard, there they are tailgating again.
Either that or they overtake me when I’m doing 30, but then in the NSL sections, I get held up because they’re only doing 45-50.
The situation is even worse in the dark, where they speed up (40+) in street-lit 30s, but slow down for unlit NSLs.
The answer to this one is easy. You are using the speed limits as your guide to an appropriate speed, and they are using their common sense.In 30 limits, (where I do 30), moron will cruise up behind at 40+ and tailgate like crazy.
However, when the 30 changes to NSL, I accelerate up to 60 (conditions permitting) and they become a distant speck in my rear-view mirror. Get to the next 30 limit, where I slow down to 30 again and, in less than a minute/couple of hundred yard, there they are tailgating again.
Either that or they overtake me when I’m doing 30, but then in the NSL sections, I get held up because they’re only doing 45-50.
The situation is even worse in the dark, where they speed up (40+) in street-lit 30s, but slow down for unlit NSLs.
I'm afraid I side with them.
DucatiGary said:
HertsBiker said:
don't hold up FWD drivers who can do the corners faster in the wet than you can in your RWD roller skate.
your kidding right?
grip that was the factor but blokeys cowardice?iamlofi said:
Its the ones that sit up your arse in a 30 then 200m before it goes into a NSL zone they are doing 60 within the 30 overtaking you . . . this really annoys me
Try doing 33/35 ish where safe in the 30 and you'll get less of this. Otherwise you look like you're driving with your chest puffed out saying "I'm going to deliberately do 30.0mph because I'm such a clever chap with otherworldly throttle control.I know somebody who prides himself by doing 30.0 even in the out of town bits they're so fond of creating these days, and he's always being tailgated/hassled/overtaken just before the end. Try and use a bit of sense (hard these days I know with the speed nazis) and it's not a problem.
SM
HertsBiker said:
Maybe it wasn't my shopping car's "amazing" grip that was the factor but blokeys cowardice?
It's amazing how slow some people go through corners especially in the wet. I'm not exactly Nigel Mansell yet I'm continually held up by these people when I'm in the 207. Fortunately the GT2 has the poke to squirt past on short straights so they're not an issue often. grip that was the factor but blokeys cowardice?Some people seem to buy these cars as some sort of trophy. You see them with gorgeous girlfriends/wives too. I wonder if they fail to operate them in the way nature intended too, lol.
SM
supermono said:
HertsBiker said:
Maybe it wasn't my shopping car's "amazing" grip that was the factor but blokeys cowardice?
It's amazing how slow some people go through corners especially in the wet. I'm not exactly Nigel Mansell yet I'm continually held up by these people when I'm in the 207. Fortunately the GT2 has the poke to squirt past on short straights so they're not an issue often. grip that was the factor but blokeys cowardice?Some people seem to buy these cars as some sort of trophy. You see them with gorgeous girlfriends/wives too. I wonder if they fail to operate them in the way nature intended too, lol.
SM
but what's the point in 300 or so bhp if you're going to drive slower than my 120 ??? I do love a challenge though, but was hoping for better of the other driver.
HertsBiker said:
DucatiGary said:
HertsBiker said:
don't hold up FWD drivers who can do the corners faster in the wet than you can in your RWD roller skate.
your kidding right? grip that was the factor but blokeys cowardice?
ed had anything gone wrong, and he wouldn't?just go with it - totally annoying but that's life! I have that quite often! Had something similar happen yesterday so guy over took 3 cars in the middle of a 40 limit (me being the middle one). Come nsl i was soon in front - just due to my natural progress being more progressive than his.
chorlton said:
CommanderJameson said:
Or maybe, just maybe, you'd have been totally ed had anything gone wrong, and he wouldn't?
Does sound like that, or a lot of look how fast I can drive willy waving.ed had anything gone wrong, and he wouldn't?Oh, but I guess anyone having fun in their car is a self confessed anti-social nutjob / willy waver.
SM
thanks SM.
Or perhaps we've logged onto
FastOnStraightsSlowOnCorners.com ?
or
Help-Me-I-bought-a-car-too-fast-to-handle.com
I'm only pointing out that being a "hero" with a big engine is a simple matter of money but being able to string a series of bends together smoothly is an artform that can't be purchased from a bmw showroom.
Y'know I thought I'd have a bit more sympathy than from just Super Mono. Really thought this was the forum for SPEED, Plod & the Law. Matey breaks the law to prove he's got most power but can't cash the cheques he's writing.
Underdog rules.
Or perhaps we've logged onto
FastOnStraightsSlowOnCorners.com ?
or
Help-Me-I-bought-a-car-too-fast-to-handle.com
I'm only pointing out that being a "hero" with a big engine is a simple matter of money but being able to string a series of bends together smoothly is an artform that can't be purchased from a bmw showroom.
Y'know I thought I'd have a bit more sympathy than from just Super Mono. Really thought this was the forum for SPEED, Plod & the Law. Matey breaks the law to prove he's got most power but can't cash the cheques he's writing.
Underdog rules.
I do agree with you just always wanted to say willy waving in a post..
What annoys me is people driving round me over speed bumps when I have to slow down to get over them. But then you just say thats life if they can do it without causing me or anyone else to have to take action then what trouble have they caused.
What annoys me is people driving round me over speed bumps when I have to slow down to get over them. But then you just say thats life if they can do it without causing me or anyone else to have to take action then what trouble have they caused.
HertsBiker said:
thanks SM.
Or perhaps we've logged onto
FastOnStraightsSlowOnCorners.com ?
or
Help-Me-I-bought-a-car-too-fast-to-handle.com
I'm only pointing out that being a "hero" with a big engine is a simple matter of money but being able to string a series of bends together smoothly is an artform that can't be purchased from a bmw showroom.
Y'know I thought I'd have a bit more sympathy than from just Super Mono. Really thought this was the forum for SPEED, Plod & the Law. Matey breaks the law to prove he's got most power but can't cash the cheques he's writing.
Underdog rules.
Look.Or perhaps we've logged onto
FastOnStraightsSlowOnCorners.com ?
or
Help-Me-I-bought-a-car-too-fast-to-handle.com
I'm only pointing out that being a "hero" with a big engine is a simple matter of money but being able to string a series of bends together smoothly is an artform that can't be purchased from a bmw showroom.
Y'know I thought I'd have a bit more sympathy than from just Super Mono. Really thought this was the forum for SPEED, Plod & the Law. Matey breaks the law to prove he's got most power but can't cash the cheques he's writing.
Underdog rules.
We get it.
You're a brilliant driver, and anyone who chooses to drive on wet roads at night slower than you is rubbish, and should trade in their apparently-nicer-than-yours car for something else. Perhaps you're not like that, but you sound like one of those kids in a Corsa "who showed up a 911 at the lights, innit".
Bottom line is that you simply don't know why he drove the way he did, and you've invented reasons that make you feel good about it. That's fine, and you're entitled to your opinion, but don't be surprised when not everyone shares it. Personally, I tend to the idea that you were more comfortable on the limits of grip and your own talent than he was on the limits of his. That makes neither of you wrong.
Perhaps he wasn't competing at all and was just annoyed by a slow car in a deserted 40 who then
ed off into the distance in the NSL.HertsBiker said:
Agreed!
but what's the point in 300 or so bhp if you're going to drive slower than my 120 ??? I do love a challenge though, but was hoping for better of the other driver.
try nearer 500bhp but what's the point in 300 or so bhp if you're going to drive slower than my 120 ??? I do love a challenge though, but was hoping for better of the other driver.
a std 996 gt2 is ohhh only about 485 from factory . . . .
anyways, your really clever, I like you, you come in here admitting your speeding, and "wanting a challenge" which is racing, and im sure thats a maximum penalty of a jail term if done on public highways, and dont realise these forums are scoured by the police regular.
one of the users here got put in prison for somthing he said on another car forum, ok he was also a plank but id be a little more careful what you are saying in future
just a tip.
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