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FiveStar

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760 posts

235 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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I understand you have to follow a vehicle for a mile or so before stopping it (is this the case for things like seatbelts aswell as speeding?). Would you check the vehicle details while following or once you have stopped the vehicle?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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FiveStar said:
I understand you have to follow a vehicle for a mile or so before stopping it (is this the case for things like seatbelts aswell as speeding?).
What on earth gave you that idea ?

FiveStar said:
Would you check the vehicle details while following or once you have stopped the vehicle?
Depends, could do it while following or could do it after it's stopped.

Rusty Moskvich

22 posts

229 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Back in those halcyon days before speed cameras became prevalent it was generally accepted that a police officer must follow you for 3/10 of a mile to establish your speed. So, if it was a case of an officer following I would imagine that for a speeding case to succeed, the same 3/10 rule may apply. As for other offences, no. You can be nicked for not wearaing a seatbelt, using a hand held phone, eating, drinking etc., as soon as an officer sees you doing it.

Edited by Rusty Moskvich on Friday 30th November 17:14

Mattt

16,664 posts

249 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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vonhosen said:
FiveStar said:
I understand you have to follow a vehicle for a mile or so before stopping it (is this the case for things like seatbelts aswell as speeding?).
What on earth gave you that idea ?
Is VASCAR, or other average speed devices, that are normally used over distances of around a mile?

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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VASCAR can be used over whatever distance the Officer believes is appropriate though I do believe there is a minimum distance required.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Mattt said:
vonhosen said:
FiveStar said:
I understand you have to follow a vehicle for a mile or so before stopping it (is this the case for things like seatbelts aswell as speeding?).
What on earth gave you that idea ?
Is VASCAR, or other average speed devices, that are normally used over distances of around a mile?
The 'recommended' minimum distance for a follow check (speedo) is 2/10ths of a mile.
Dial in distance checks however can be down to 0.07 of mile.

Nothing like a mile & no measured distance for seatbelt offences etc.

Edited by vonhosen on Friday 30th November 20:16

Mattt

16,664 posts

249 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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So 0.2m as a minimum, what's a more common distance?

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Mattt said:
So 0.2m as a minimum, what's a more common distance?
You get the string and I'll get the ruler.

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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is that string with the ends cut off?

Isoproturon1

3,640 posts

232 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Mattt said:
So 0.2m as a minimum, what's a more common distance?
20 centimetres? That's not very far.

goskins17

54 posts

241 months

Saturday 1st December 2007
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We have in car PNC and would check all the details before stopping the car, no insurance, driving licence etc. Gives a head up when talking to the customer.

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 1st December 2007
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goskins17 said:
We have in car PNC and would check all the details before stopping the car, no insurance, driving licence etc. Gives a head up when talking to the customer.
Interesting one, when i've been in with bib on pnc's and a car is uninsured when stopped there are cases of foreigners driving on a green card? (international insurance permit,), or people driving perfectly legally under their own insurance from their own policy, Pnc seems a good system and catches out a lot of "characters", but do you think it has an image problem in not being updated regularly enough or incorrect data being input at the dvla/mib end, this leaves the bib to get a bit of earache off people accusing them of pulling people unnecessarily.