A Police Officer Speaks
Discussion
Well Mr Citizen it seems you have me all figured out.
I fit neatly into the category where you have placed me.
I'm stereotyped, standardized, characterized , classified, grouped and always typical.
Unfortunately the reverse is true, I can never figure you out.
From birth you teach your children that I'm the bogeyman, if they do anything bad I'll take them away then you're shocked when they identify /associate with my traditional enemy ... the criminal.
You accuse me of going to easy on criminals, until I catch your kids doing wrong.
You take an hour for lunch and several coffee breaks each day, but point me out as lazy for having one cup.
You pride yourself on your manners, but think nothing of disrupting my meals with your troubles.
You go mad with the guy who cuts you off in traffic, but let me catch you doing the same thing and I'm picking on you.
You know the laws ... but you've never gotten a single ticket you deserve.
you shout IDIOT if you observe me driving fast to a call, but raise the roof if I take more than ten seconds to respond to your complaint.
You call it part of my job if someone strikes me but call it police brutality if I strike back.
You talk to me in a manner that would get you a bloody nose from anyone else , but expect me to take it without batting an eye.
You yell that somethings got to be done to fight crime, but you can't be bothered to get involved.
You have no use for me at all, but of course it's ok if I change a flat for your wife, deliver your child in the back of a patrol car , or perhaps save your sons life with mouth to mouth breathing, or work many hours overtime looking for your lost daughter.
So Mr Citizen you can stand their on your soap box and rant and rave about the way I do my work, calling me every name in the book but never stop to think that your property, family or maybe even your life depends on me or one of my buddies.
Yes Mr Citizen it's me the cop!
This article was written by Trooper Mitchell Brown of the Virginia State Police as a salute to the millions of police officers who put their own safety and often own lives on the line for Mr and Mrs Citizen.
Two months after writing it Trooper Mitchell Brown was killed in the line of duty.
I fit neatly into the category where you have placed me.
I'm stereotyped, standardized, characterized , classified, grouped and always typical.
Unfortunately the reverse is true, I can never figure you out.
From birth you teach your children that I'm the bogeyman, if they do anything bad I'll take them away then you're shocked when they identify /associate with my traditional enemy ... the criminal.
You accuse me of going to easy on criminals, until I catch your kids doing wrong.
You take an hour for lunch and several coffee breaks each day, but point me out as lazy for having one cup.
You pride yourself on your manners, but think nothing of disrupting my meals with your troubles.
You go mad with the guy who cuts you off in traffic, but let me catch you doing the same thing and I'm picking on you.
You know the laws ... but you've never gotten a single ticket you deserve.
you shout IDIOT if you observe me driving fast to a call, but raise the roof if I take more than ten seconds to respond to your complaint.
You call it part of my job if someone strikes me but call it police brutality if I strike back.
You talk to me in a manner that would get you a bloody nose from anyone else , but expect me to take it without batting an eye.
You yell that somethings got to be done to fight crime, but you can't be bothered to get involved.
You have no use for me at all, but of course it's ok if I change a flat for your wife, deliver your child in the back of a patrol car , or perhaps save your sons life with mouth to mouth breathing, or work many hours overtime looking for your lost daughter.
So Mr Citizen you can stand their on your soap box and rant and rave about the way I do my work, calling me every name in the book but never stop to think that your property, family or maybe even your life depends on me or one of my buddies.
Yes Mr Citizen it's me the cop!
This article was written by Trooper Mitchell Brown of the Virginia State Police as a salute to the millions of police officers who put their own safety and often own lives on the line for Mr and Mrs Citizen.
Two months after writing it Trooper Mitchell Brown was killed in the line of duty.
Dwight VanDriver said:
With only two and half percent on the table from Sept 2007 then G51CAV its time to flog the trumpet instead of blowing it.
(Notice the Narpo statement on this matter?)
dvd
Absolutely right, I have never felt so under valued in my working life!(Notice the Narpo statement on this matter?)
dvd
I got this by Email and whether or not it is true much of it is accurate.
To say that morale will be at a low I would think will be a huge understatement.
Cost cutting everywhere, but you know what they say about what you get when you pay peanuts!!!!
Sorry to hear this policeman died.
His rant needs to be addressed properly, and in perspective. Which it won't be.
The people he refers to are the undecuated and, to keep things simple, thick and selfish. It used to be that these people were blamed for their own standings in life, but now they are glorified and catered to for no other reason than....they are uneducated, thick and selfish. ( Simple examples - Jade Goody is a multi-millionaire for saying ' East Angular, where's that....being abusive and obnoxious....the woman from 'Wife Swap' was also made a celebrity and paid handsomely for being the ultimate low life package )
The real problems started, or started 15-20 or so years ago, when we also fast tracked people from such minorities to positions of power, again for no other reason than colour, disability, living in a poor area etc etc.
For if you do not take the best man or woman for the job, standards fall.
And in Britain they have collapsed.
The police, like teachers and nurses, are stripped of all authority because our society is run for the benefit of low life. If one, just one member of the low life files a complaint against any of the above workers, that's it - long, slow and one sided investigations of the copper, teacher and nurse, often with the end result that the professional person is cleared but quits due to the stress and negative experience of reality in Britain 2007.
This policy will take a few generations to change, and it will need one hell of a strong man prime minister. I wouldn't hold your breath on that.
For another issue, which the police, teachers and nurses etc also need to adopt, is that they are infiltrated with many thick, nasty low life personnel, too. That is a natural development of the above.
And they ensure that professions are demoralised, nepotism rules, all authority and respect has gone.
His rant needs to be addressed properly, and in perspective. Which it won't be.
The people he refers to are the undecuated and, to keep things simple, thick and selfish. It used to be that these people were blamed for their own standings in life, but now they are glorified and catered to for no other reason than....they are uneducated, thick and selfish. ( Simple examples - Jade Goody is a multi-millionaire for saying ' East Angular, where's that....being abusive and obnoxious....the woman from 'Wife Swap' was also made a celebrity and paid handsomely for being the ultimate low life package )
The real problems started, or started 15-20 or so years ago, when we also fast tracked people from such minorities to positions of power, again for no other reason than colour, disability, living in a poor area etc etc.
For if you do not take the best man or woman for the job, standards fall.
And in Britain they have collapsed.
The police, like teachers and nurses, are stripped of all authority because our society is run for the benefit of low life. If one, just one member of the low life files a complaint against any of the above workers, that's it - long, slow and one sided investigations of the copper, teacher and nurse, often with the end result that the professional person is cleared but quits due to the stress and negative experience of reality in Britain 2007.
This policy will take a few generations to change, and it will need one hell of a strong man prime minister. I wouldn't hold your breath on that.
For another issue, which the police, teachers and nurses etc also need to adopt, is that they are infiltrated with many thick, nasty low life personnel, too. That is a natural development of the above.
And they ensure that professions are demoralised, nepotism rules, all authority and respect has gone.
This whole thing doesn't actually fly.
I was going to do an alternative response based from a taxpayer and law abiding citizens view but then realised that the whole premise is flawed.
The piece seems to indicate a great hypocrisy and contradiction from the general public
This only applies if you follow the assumption that the same person is involved in both the retort and response.
However the writer has cleverly grouped all sections of the community under one umbrella 'the citizen' and is then able to use opposing views as if they came from the same person creating a hypocrisy that doesn't exist.
I was going to do an alternative response based from a taxpayer and law abiding citizens view but then realised that the whole premise is flawed.
The piece seems to indicate a great hypocrisy and contradiction from the general public
This only applies if you follow the assumption that the same person is involved in both the retort and response.
However the writer has cleverly grouped all sections of the community under one umbrella 'the citizen' and is then able to use opposing views as if they came from the same person creating a hypocrisy that doesn't exist.
mark69sheer said:
This whole thing doesn't actually fly.
I was going to do an alternative response based from a taxpayer and law abiding citizens view but then realised that the whole premise is flawed.
The piece seems to indicate a great hypocrisy and contradiction from the general public
This only applies if you follow the assumption that the same person is involved in both the retort and response.
However the writer has cleverly grouped all sections of the community under one umbrella 'the citizen' and is then able to use opposing views as if they came from the same person creating a hypocrisy that doesn't exist.
I was going to do an alternative response based from a taxpayer and law abiding citizens view but then realised that the whole premise is flawed.
The piece seems to indicate a great hypocrisy and contradiction from the general public
This only applies if you follow the assumption that the same person is involved in both the retort and response.
However the writer has cleverly grouped all sections of the community under one umbrella 'the citizen' and is then able to use opposing views as if they came from the same person creating a hypocrisy that doesn't exist.
mark69sheer said:
This whole thing doesn't actually fly.
I was going to do an alternative response based from a taxpayer and law abiding citizens view but then realised that the whole premise is flawed.
The piece seems to indicate a great hypocrisy and contradiction from the general public
This only applies if you follow the assumption that the same person is involved in both the retort and response.
However the writer has cleverly grouped all sections of the community under one umbrella 'the citizen' and is then able to use opposing views as if they came from the same person creating a hypocrisy that doesn't exist.
Pass the crack pipe vicar...I was going to do an alternative response based from a taxpayer and law abiding citizens view but then realised that the whole premise is flawed.
The piece seems to indicate a great hypocrisy and contradiction from the general public
This only applies if you follow the assumption that the same person is involved in both the retort and response.
However the writer has cleverly grouped all sections of the community under one umbrella 'the citizen' and is then able to use opposing views as if they came from the same person creating a hypocrisy that doesn't exist.
its crap
just as many officers are wrongly labelled becuase of the occasional bad one
it is wrong to label all citizens due to the occasional bad ones
i always show respect for laws and the people who uphold them, however i understand that police deal with the scum of the earth everyday and judging by this post you have started to believe thats all that exists
just as many officers are wrongly labelled becuase of the occasional bad one
it is wrong to label all citizens due to the occasional bad ones
i always show respect for laws and the people who uphold them, however i understand that police deal with the scum of the earth everyday and judging by this post you have started to believe thats all that exists
ypauly said:
its crap
just as many officers are wrongly labelled becuase of the occasional bad one
it is wrong to label all citizens due to the occasional bad ones
i always show respect for laws and the people who uphold them, however i understand that police deal with the scum of the earth everyday and judging by this post you have started to believe thats all that exists
I can think of many posts on SP+L that prove the OP right...just as many officers are wrongly labelled becuase of the occasional bad one
it is wrong to label all citizens due to the occasional bad ones
i always show respect for laws and the people who uphold them, however i understand that police deal with the scum of the earth everyday and judging by this post you have started to believe thats all that exists
Bing o said:
ypauly said:
its crap
just as many officers are wrongly labelled becuase of the occasional bad one
it is wrong to label all citizens due to the occasional bad ones
i always show respect for laws and the people who uphold them, however i understand that police deal with the scum of the earth everyday and judging by this post you have started to believe thats all that exists
I can think of many posts on SP+L that prove the OP right...just as many officers are wrongly labelled becuase of the occasional bad one
it is wrong to label all citizens due to the occasional bad ones
i always show respect for laws and the people who uphold them, however i understand that police deal with the scum of the earth everyday and judging by this post you have started to believe thats all that exists
don't tar everybody with the same brush
and yes i have seen plenty of BIB bashing however i feel most people are like me and see it for what its worth
sad state of affairs indeed.
im not just saying this because its a motoring forum but the speed kills thing and the continuous persecution of motorists, by the government, upholded by the police, is the reason for most of it.
ive left much higher positions than head of a local area becuase i didnt think it was morrally right to action the ridiculous orders.
if BiB dont get of their arse and do somthing about their good name then what you want us to do?
do it for you?
dont give me "ohh ive got a morgtage" or family, or any of that whining nonsens, been there, done that, walked out and had to make sure i kept it all together or i would have lost it all.
go on, be a man
make a difference
im not just saying this because its a motoring forum but the speed kills thing and the continuous persecution of motorists, by the government, upholded by the police, is the reason for most of it.
ive left much higher positions than head of a local area becuase i didnt think it was morrally right to action the ridiculous orders.
if BiB dont get of their arse and do somthing about their good name then what you want us to do?
do it for you?
dont give me "ohh ive got a morgtage" or family, or any of that whining nonsens, been there, done that, walked out and had to make sure i kept it all together or i would have lost it all.
go on, be a man
make a differenceYellabowley said:
It has been worked out that 2.5% works out to a pay cut once inflation etc is taken into account.
Firmly kicked in the teeth by Mr Brown.
I work for a large and relatively profitable company. I am always assessed as being an above average performer. I have had 1 payrise in the last 3 years and that was 2.5%. Many of my colleagues have not even had that.Firmly kicked in the teeth by Mr Brown.
I'm sorry that the police, nurses, teachers, etc don't get payrises each year that cover inflation. They do however have final salary pensions and relative job security. Some get to retire early on a good pension, while all will get full pension from 65.
DucatiGary said:
sad state of affairs indeed.
im not just saying this because its a motoring forum but the speed kills thing and the continuous persecution of motorists, by the government, upholded by the police, is the reason for most of it.
ive left much higher positions than head of a local area becuase i didnt think it was morrally right to action the ridiculous orders.
if BiB dont get of their arse and do somthing about their good name then what you want us to do?
do it for you?
dont give me "ohh ive got a morgtage" or family, or any of that whining nonsens, been there, done that, walked out and had to make sure i kept it all together or i would have lost it all.
go on, be a man make a difference
Are you ex plod perchance ?im not just saying this because its a motoring forum but the speed kills thing and the continuous persecution of motorists, by the government, upholded by the police, is the reason for most of it.
ive left much higher positions than head of a local area becuase i didnt think it was morrally right to action the ridiculous orders.
if BiB dont get of their arse and do somthing about their good name then what you want us to do?
do it for you?
dont give me "ohh ive got a morgtage" or family, or any of that whining nonsens, been there, done that, walked out and had to make sure i kept it all together or i would have lost it all.
go on, be a man
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