Parking Stazi a law unto themselves....

[Parrot of Doom]

...in the not too distant future, according to this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne...

How the hell does one 'prove' you witnessed a parking offence - does this mean they'll be wearing hats with cameras?

ing wrs the lot of them. ing genetically deformed cock sucking window licking monobrowed scum of the earth.

[G51CAV]

[quote=Parrot of Doom

ing wrs the lot of them. ing genetically deformed cock sucking window licking monobrowed scum of the earth.
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Don't you sit on the fence now!!!

Nothing more than a revenue generating exercise by the sounds of it.

[mark69sheer]

So how do you proceed if your plates get cloned?

Do they have to have photographic evidence of the driver?

[wrinx]

Another example of motorists being presumed guilty first

Loss of appeal is worrying in a supposedly democratic society

wrinx

[esselte]

report said:

Another key provision will allow councils to set up their own appeals machinery, rather than using the National Parking Adjudication Service

So they're now making themselves judge,jury and executioner? Of course it'll be fair...won't it...?

[holborn]

revolution anyone ?

democracy HA HA HA HA

If said it before ITS to late for playing nice in the uk
only solution is direct action.

[holborn]

FishFace said:

wrinx said:

Another example of motorists being presumed guilty first

What when they have to prove a parking offence was committed?

I don't see the big fuss. What specifically are people objecting to?

come on no ones that slow m8

who they going to prove it too?
they dsone away with you right to challange it in court already. now there doing away with the write to appeal it to a pretend inparshal tribunaray as well

so councile give you a ticket
councile prove the ticket valit there selfs
you apeal to council they no it valid

ok that ok then motorist bends over

[streaky]

holborn - you're not outlaw in disguise, are you? - Streaky

[streaky]

FishFace said:

They "could" lose their right to appeal? What, in a white paper which hasn't been anywhere near trimmed off by the relevant houses?

I believe that it's a Draft Statutory Instrument, not a "White Paper". If actually presented to the lower House - most are simply signed by the Minister responsible - these are almost always nodded through with no debate. IIRC, they are not debated by the House of Peers either - Streaky

[Dwight VanDriver]

Streaky

Would you awfully mind arising somewhat earlier am 10th and
unfathom this which could have some bearing on topic of thread

http://tinyurl.com/2fhnck

You will appreciate we are coming into the realms of 'The Prisoner' by the introduction of 'The Regulator'. Does this also mean when out and about in the MV not only should one look out for Gatso's but also bladdy big white ballon bouncing all over the place.

dvd

Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Sunday 9th December 08:28

[wrinx]

FishFace said:

wrinx said:

Another example of motorists being presumed guilty first

What when they have to prove a parking offence was committed?

I don't see the big fuss. What specifically are people objecting to?

Ticketers make mistakes, ticketers get over zealous, guilt is not automatic because someone says it is.

wrinx

[streaky]

Dwight VanDriver said:

Streaky

Would you awfully mind arising somewhat earlier am 10th and
unfathom this which could have some bearing on topic of thread

http://tinyurl.com/2fhnck

You will appreciate we are coming into the realms of 'The Prisoner' by the introduction of 'The Regulator'. Does this also mean when out and about in the MV not only should one look out for Gatso's but also bladdy big white ballon bouncing all over the place.

dvd

Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Sunday 9th December 08:28

OMG! What a nightmare! How impenetrable does a piece of legislation need to be? [Stupid question!] It's deeply worrying when the Explanatory Notes are nearly as long as the Bill itself.

It's all about pushing regulatory power down the line ... and away from the Courts! The real name of the 'new' body should be the "Local MORE Regulation Office". Whilst it appears aimed at creating a arena in which "regulation" can be better enforced, and that such "regulation" is in the main aimed at companies (but includes individuals), it looks like a 'thin-end-of-the-wedge' piece of legislation that can be abused - especially in conjunction with existing and new Statutory Powers/Instruments.

Does that help?

Streaky

PS: DVD - what did you mean to say when you typed: "arising somewhat earlier am 10th"? - S

[Dwight VanDriver]

>>>>PS: DVD - what did you mean to say when you typed: "arising somewhat earlier am 10th"? - S <<<<

Seethee Thars in me book for being an early riser from time of thee posts.

Or do I take it that you have arisen from a warm bed to go home?

Re the legislation appreciate your comments. I thought I was having a brainstorm trying to fathom it out. Will have to wait until the legal eagles spout forth when the Act is fully plumped with various S I's.

dvd

[Strangely Brown]

holborn said:

come on no ones that slow m8

who they going to prove it too?
they dsone away with you right to challange it in court already. now there doing away with the write to appeal it to a pretend inparshal tribunaray as well

so councile give you a ticket
councile prove the ticket valit there selfs
you apeal to council they no it valid

ok that ok then motorist bends over

WTF? All pedantry aside that has to be one of the worst written posts that I have seen on here, ever. I'm not sure whether it's deliberate or if the bloke is really completely illiterate.

Jeez, c'mon. I know that I can be picky about what standard I deem acceptable in written language but that is just taking the piss.

ETA: OK, back to the subject now.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Monday 10th December 08:16

[Peter Ward]

Strangely Brown said:

holborn said:

come on no ones that slow m8

who they going to prove it too?
they dsone away with you right to challange it in court already. now there doing away with the write to appeal it to a pretend inparshal tribunaray as well

so councile give you a ticket
councile prove the ticket valit there selfs
you apeal to council they no it valid

ok that ok then motorist bends over

WTF? All pedantry aside that has to be one of the worst written posts that I have seen on here, ever. I'm not sure whether it's deliberate or if the bloke is really completely illiterate.

Jeez, c'mon. I know that I can be picky about what standard I deem acceptable in written language but that is just taking the piss.

ETA: OK, back to the subject now.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Monday 10th December 08:16

Hence Streaky's question about whether Holborn is Outlaw. Outlaw is/was severely dyslexic and perhaps Holborn is too. Please don't jump to conclusions before we know.

[Strangely Brown]

Peter Ward said:

Strangely Brown said:

holborn said:

come on no ones that slow m8

who they going to prove it too?
they dsone away with you right to challange it in court already. now there doing away with the write to appeal it to a pretend inparshal tribunaray as well

so councile give you a ticket
councile prove the ticket valit there selfs
you apeal to council they no it valid

ok that ok then motorist bends over

WTF? All pedantry aside that has to be one of the worst written posts that I have seen on here, ever. I'm not sure whether it's deliberate or if the bloke is really completely illiterate.

Jeez, c'mon. I know that I can be picky about what standard I deem acceptable in written language but that is just taking the piss.

ETA: OK, back to the subject now.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Monday 10th December 08:16

Hence Streaky's question about whether Holborn is Outlaw. Outlaw is/was severely dyslexic and perhaps Holborn is too. Please don't jump to conclusions before we know.

Hmmm... ok, benefit of doubt given but ...

I am not aware that dyslexics use chav speak 'm8'.

Anyway... back to the subject... move along now... nothing to see here.

[Jasandjules]

Hats with cameras have been in use in East Anglia I think for a few months.

[esselte]

streaky said:

holborn - you're not outlaw in disguise, are you? - Streaky

I don't think you're wrong.....

[streaky]

Dwight VanDriver said:

>>>>PS: DVD - what did you mean to say when you typed: "arising somewhat earlier am 10th"? - S <<<<

Seethee Thars in me book for being an early riser from time of thee posts.

Early to bed,
Early to rise.
Makes a man,
Have blearly eyes!

Sometimes the job makes for odd hours - Streaky

[sadako]

I've heard of some places either using CCTV for parking offences and others giving the yellow perils handheld digital cameras to record evidence.