How much trouble am I in?
Discussion
Hi peeps.
Ive just recieved a notice that ive been caught speeding by a gun.
now it doesnt say what my fine or points are, just asks me to fill the back of the sheet in.
I got 3 points in Jan this year, another 3 points about 2 months ago, and now this has come through.
it says i was doing 63 in a 40mph zone.
Someone said that the laws have changed recently, so, im a buggered or is it likely to just be another £60 + 3 points.
thanks for replies
Ive just recieved a notice that ive been caught speeding by a gun.
now it doesnt say what my fine or points are, just asks me to fill the back of the sheet in.
I got 3 points in Jan this year, another 3 points about 2 months ago, and now this has come through.
it says i was doing 63 in a 40mph zone.
Someone said that the laws have changed recently, so, im a buggered or is it likely to just be another £60 + 3 points.
thanks for replies
You will be looking at another 3 of her majesty's finest points and a lovely £60 finearoonie.
The law states that for up to 26mph over the posted limited can be dealt with by a conditional offer. So your ok up to 66mph in a 40. Above this its dealt with by the courts.
The limit for this is high as it increases the rates of instant convitctions with minimal hassel for the Speed Scamera guys and DVLA. So maximising their income from their stealth tax. Good eh!!
To be honest I spend more time these days looking at my speedo than I do at where I am going. All I do is look for camera's and what speed I'm doing and the posted speed limits.
Before all this stupid shananigans I would look out for roads hazards, children, cars pulling out of junctions, motorbikes, stray animals and general things that could cause harm or be harmed by my car.
now I dont have time to check for these things as I might be doing 33mph and get another 3 points a £60 fine.
Oh but I am a much safer driver now I driver at the speed limits! mmmmmm Yes that was a sarcastic comment!!!!
Cruise control is great ... just put it on and zoom past schools etc with the consistent speed of 30 mph without having to think (we have the labour government for that). Gaze in the distance at leasure, oblivious of what is going on around you as you are driving within the limit so you can not be prosecuted for anything anyway 
EU_Foreigner said:
Cruise control is great ... just put it on and zoom past schools etc with the consistent speed of 30 mph without having to think (we have the labour government for that). Gaze in the distance at leasure, oblivious of what is going on around you as you are driving within the limit so you can not be prosecuted for anything anyway
I agree! When i'm in the Merc & just getting from A to B for work then I do set the cruise at 32ish & just drive around town flicking it on & off, very boring, it numbs your mind however you then dont need to worry about going over 2,000 rpm in 3rd gear. The forms that you received will be the first notification of the offence i.e. Notice of Intendeded Prosecution that has to be served on driver (if known) or Reg keeper within 14 days of the offence (excluding day of the offence). Outside this time and they cannot proceed.
Also will be a request to name the driver - no time limit. Has to be completed and signed and returned within 28 days otherwise offence.
With 6 active points on your Licence then from what you state you should still qualify for a Conditional Offer - pay60/3 more points.
Henceforth with 9 on the Licence develope eyes like a hawk and very gentle right foot. The next one will be a 6 month ban under totting until such time as you start dropping previous points off your Licence
dvd
Also will be a request to name the driver - no time limit. Has to be completed and signed and returned within 28 days otherwise offence.
With 6 active points on your Licence then from what you state you should still qualify for a Conditional Offer - pay60/3 more points.
Henceforth with 9 on the Licence develope eyes like a hawk and very gentle right foot. The next one will be a 6 month ban under totting until such time as you start dropping previous points off your Licence
dvd
Deltaf01 said:
fatboy b said:
Ever thought of slowing down a bit? I would have been sticking to the limits religiously after the second 3 points. So I guess you'll be on 9 soon then.
Yeah and i suppose that would make you the worlds safest driver eh? tonygw said:
Before all this stupid shananigans I would look out for roads hazards, children, cars pulling out of junctions, motorbikes, stray animals and general things that could cause harm or be harmed by my car. now I dont have time to check for these things as I might be doing 33mph and get another 3 points a £60 fine.
EU_Foreigner said:
Cruise control is great ... just put it on and zoom past schools etc with the consistent speed of 30 mph without having to think (we have the labour government for that). Gaze in the distance at leasure, oblivious of what is going on around you as you are driving within the limit so you can not be prosecuted for anything anyway
Guys – I know you will never be persuaded to support limits and cameras. Good on ya, each to his own. I like ‘em, you don’t, c’est la vie.However, a word to the wise. When you make the comments above, groups take them, and use them to illustrate why we need more controls, more limits and more cameras. The groups I refer to do not believe what you say above, they never have, they never will. But they use it as an example of the idiotic behaviour and attitude of the opposition, and use it to condemn your position through your poor driving.
Carry on if you want, but you would not be so glib if you saw your comments being reproduced on the news sheets under the headings “these are the speed idiots we are trying to deal with”.
Doesn’t bother me either way, I can live with what we’ve got, but I would have thought that if you were genuine, you would think twice before loading the gun.
BFF
Chadders said:
Thanks for replies guys!
I'll fill in the form tonight. Also we are genuinely not 100% sure who was driving, although it was probably me. Will be doing a bit more looking into this!!
There should be a number on the ticket, call them and ask for photographic evidence as you can't be sure who was driving. You will then know who was and what evidence they have.I'll fill in the form tonight. Also we are genuinely not 100% sure who was driving, although it was probably me. Will be doing a bit more looking into this!!
Chadders said:
are these pictures usually good enough to tell though?
It says I can get the photographic evidence but I need to write to them with a valid reason for it
Write to them, saying that you need them to determine who was driving your car at time of offence. The pics aren't always clear enough to tell who was driving.....It says I can get the photographic evidence but I need to write to them with a valid reason for it
Chadders said:
are these pictures usually good enough to tell though?
You will not know that until you see them!Chadders said:
It says I can get the photographic evidence but I need to write to them with a valid reason for it
You are about to be prosecuted - and they want a reason why you'd like to see some evidence???
GOOD GOD.
Big Fat F'r said:
tonygw said:
Before all this stupid shananigans I would look out for roads hazards, children, cars pulling out of junctions, motorbikes, stray animals and general things that could cause harm or be harmed by my car. now I dont have time to check for these things as I might be doing 33mph and get another 3 points a £60 fine.
EU_Foreigner said:
Cruise control is great ... just put it on and zoom past schools etc with the consistent speed of 30 mph without having to think (we have the labour government for that). Gaze in the distance at leasure, oblivious of what is going on around you as you are driving within the limit so you can not be prosecuted for anything anyway
Guys – I know you will never be persuaded to support limits and cameras. Good on ya, each to his own. I like ‘em, you don’t, c’est la vie.However, a word to the wise. When you make the comments above, groups take them, and use them to illustrate why we need more controls, more limits and more cameras. The groups I refer to do not believe what you say above, they never have, they never will. But they use it as an example of the idiotic behaviour and attitude of the opposition, and use it to condemn your position through your poor driving.
Carry on if you want, but you would not be so glib if you saw your comments being reproduced on the news sheets under the headings “these are the speed idiots we are trying to deal with”.
Doesn’t bother me either way, I can live with what we’ve got, but I would have thought that if you were genuine, you would think twice before loading the gun.
BFF
ah, I see, exactly the sort of retard we have in charge of 'road safety' - as you were.
Big Fat F'r said:
Guys – I know you will never be persuaded to support limits and cameras. Good on ya, each to his own. I like ‘em, you don’t, c’est la vie.
However, a word to the wise. When you make the comments above, groups take them, and use them to illustrate why we need more controls, more limits and more cameras. The groups I refer to do not believe what you say above, they never have, they never will. But they use it as an example of the idiotic behaviour and attitude of the opposition, and use it to condemn your position through your poor driving.
Perhaps it escaped your attention that their comments point out the fundamental flaws of concentrating a road safety policy purely on speed limits. Are you suggesting that we now don't exercise our freedom of speech? It's gradually being eroded anyway, perhaps you'd like to see it banned?However, a word to the wise. When you make the comments above, groups take them, and use them to illustrate why we need more controls, more limits and more cameras. The groups I refer to do not believe what you say above, they never have, they never will. But they use it as an example of the idiotic behaviour and attitude of the opposition, and use it to condemn your position through your poor driving.
Einion Yrth said:
Big Fat F'r said:
tonygw said:
Before all this stupid shananigans I would look out for roads hazards, children, cars pulling out of junctions, motorbikes, stray animals and general things that could cause harm or be harmed by my car. now I dont have time to check for these things as I might be doing 33mph and get another 3 points a £60 fine.
EU_Foreigner said:
Cruise control is great ... just put it on and zoom past schools etc with the consistent speed of 30 mph without having to think (we have the labour government for that). Gaze in the distance at leasure, oblivious of what is going on around you as you are driving within the limit so you can not be prosecuted for anything anyway
Guys – I know you will never be persuaded to support limits and cameras. Good on ya, each to his own. I like ‘em, you don’t, c’est la vie.However, a word to the wise. When you make the comments above, groups take them, and use them to illustrate why we need more controls, more limits and more cameras. The groups I refer to do not believe what you say above, they never have, they never will. But they use it as an example of the idiotic behaviour and attitude of the opposition, and use it to condemn your position through your poor driving.
Carry on if you want, but you would not be so glib if you saw your comments being reproduced on the news sheets under the headings “these are the speed idiots we are trying to deal with”.
Doesn’t bother me either way, I can live with what we’ve got, but I would have thought that if you were genuine, you would think twice before loading the gun.
BFF
ah, I see, exactly the sort of retard we have in charge of 'road safety' - as you were.
BFF
Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff