Reported for road rage
Reported for road rage
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Maxx-Waxx

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927 posts

274 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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A month or so ago on the M1, i passed a car who was indicating to pull out into my lane, because i didnt let the guy in he gave me the w@nker sign as i passed.
He then pulled out behind me and undertook me at his 1st opportunity only then to brake test me when he was infront, at which point i had to swerve to the inside to miss hitting him.
He pulled off at my junction me still behind him and when we came to set of lights on red i pulled along side him got out and told him what i thought of his driving.
I got back in the car lights turned green and we went our separate ways.
The police have now contacted my company needing to speak to me.

I dint report the incident but could i potentially be in trouble for getting out the car at lights to tell someone what i thought of them


Edited by Maxx-Waxx on Thursday 13th December 16:52

DIW35

4,205 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Just deny you were anywhere near the place, unless the occupants of the other car took a photo of you what can be proved?

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Say, "Well I wasn't going to report it because I didn't think it was serious enough..." and tell the story. If the bloke cut you up and drove dangerously you should report it - its a crime. Telling the bloke he's a wr afterwards isn't illegal.

Unless you did more than that?

tigger1

8,478 posts

252 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Don said:
Telling the bloke he's a wr afterwards isn't illegal.
Apart from the small matter of the "foul + abusive language", and the approaching his car and putting him in fear of an immediate wotsit (assault).

Don said:
Unless you did more than that?
Getting out of the car was a stupid thing to do, regardless of what you thought of the standard of his driving. If there are witnesses to you getting out and shouting at him...there may be trouble ahead.

Maxx-Waxx

Original Poster:

927 posts

274 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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tigger1 said:
Don said:
Telling the bloke he's a wr afterwards isn't illegal.
Apart from the small matter of the "foul + abusive language", and the approaching his car and putting him in fear of an immediate wotsit (assault).

Don said:
Unless you did more than that?
Getting out of the car was a stupid thing to do, regardless of what you thought of the standard of his driving. If there are witnesses to you getting out and shouting at him...there may be trouble ahead.
What can you be prosectuted for, for getting out of your vehicle and telling someone what you thought of them.

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Maxx-Waxx said:
tigger1 said:
Don said:
Telling the bloke he's a wr afterwards isn't illegal.
Apart from the small matter of the "foul + abusive language", and the approaching his car and putting him in fear of an immediate wotsit (assault).

Don said:
Unless you did more than that?
Getting out of the car was a stupid thing to do, regardless of what you thought of the standard of his driving. If there are witnesses to you getting out and shouting at him...there may be trouble ahead.
What can you be prosectuted for, for getting out of your vehicle and telling someone what you thought of them.
no but it loks bad for you

they saw its a company car and therefore trying to punish you through your boss

as an experienced road rager getting out of the car is stupid unless you are me

apparently they can be armed. your eyes lighting up at the prospect of giving them a free kicking is not a good sign.

even if they pull a firearm on you and you claim self defence you are in a world of shit and will probably be offered a caution. especially if you are witnessed entering that vehicle, exiting that vehicle and holding said firearm and the perp is covered in wounds. legally you may be in the right but in the summing up of the witness you are now standing there with a firearm in hand and someone is shouting assault.

however if you go though this and learn from your mistakes and stay in the car expect damage from to the car.

expect some fat chavvy bint to kick your pride and joy

run i mean waddle off,

deny it and accuse you of assult.

run into a pub and claim some gorilla has attacked me.

then have to deal with 8 blokes on your tod while waiting for police backup

so everytime you are in a road rage incident you are basically rolling the dice

do you feel lucky punk

tigger1

8,478 posts

252 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Maxx-Waxx said:
tigger1 said:
Don said:
Telling the bloke he's a wr afterwards isn't illegal.
Apart from the small matter of the "foul + abusive language", and the approaching his car and putting him in fear of an immediate wotsit (assault).

Don said:
Unless you did more than that?
Getting out of the car was a stupid thing to do, regardless of what you thought of the standard of his driving. If there are witnesses to you getting out and shouting at him...there may be trouble ahead.
What can you be prosectuted for, for getting out of your vehicle and telling someone what you thought of them.
Anything from assault / threatening behaviour, through criminal damage...all the way up to murder if you get out of your car, slap somebody - they fall over, bang head on kerb and die.

On the other hand, if you just suck it in, you smile, drive off and do nothing...your testes will shrink slightly, but you'll be able to forget about it - rather than have to explain to your boss why the police are round questioning you about what you were doing (possibly in company time, with a company car).

allaway

353 posts

253 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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SplatSpeed said:
Maxx-Waxx said:
tigger1 said:
Don said:
Telling the bloke he's a wr afterwards isn't illegal.
Apart from the small matter of the "foul + abusive language", and the approaching his car and putting him in fear of an immediate wotsit (assault).

Don said:
Unless you did more than that?
Getting out of the car was a stupid thing to do, regardless of what you thought of the standard of his driving. If there are witnesses to you getting out and shouting at him...there may be trouble ahead.
What can you be prosectuted for, for getting out of your vehicle and telling someone what you thought of them.
no but it loks bad for you

If you get out of your vehicle you should do so with the engine switched off and at the side of the road. If you have done otherwise then you have commited an offence.

davido140

9,617 posts

257 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Don said:
Say, "Well I wasn't going to report it because I didn't think it was serious enough..." and tell the story. If the bloke cut you up and drove dangerously you should report it - its a crime. Telling the bloke he's a wr afterwards isn't illegal.

Unless you did more than that?
Sounds like an appointment to be arrested is on the cards....

Expect to walk away with a caution if you admit "having a word".

If thats not an issue thats the quickest way to get it over with.

Remember this will NEVER be refered to the CPS so if you just sit in the interview room and deny all knowledge of the incident you might piss the copper off a little bit but its your "record" so dont feel too guilty.

They will try to be your best mate in the world whilst interviewing you, "I'd have done the same thing mate" etc etc.

Speaking from personal experience? maybe smile

MiniMac

8,016 posts

234 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Unless they have video or picture. Deny everything. Up to the other fella /BiB to prove you were even on that road at that time, let alone giving it beans.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

280 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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You took it that step too far by getting out of your car and approaching the guy,its probably going to get you a warning for your actions.

I understand people can frustrate at times but getting out to confront and the fact he locked his doors because he felt in fear of his safety is going to be seen as worthy of a word in your ear and a slapped wrist by bib.

BMWBen

4,906 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Dear me - some silly advice here.

Don't bloody "deny everything" - if you're going to do that exercise your RIGHT TO SILENCE.

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

282 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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BMWBen said:
Dear me - some silly advice here.

Don't bloody "deny everything" - if you're going to do that exercise your RIGHT TO SILENCE.
no it went under new labour

or are you refering to the human rights act of the EU????

nightfever

914 posts

250 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Although you didn't think it through, you didn't do anything terrible. However, now you've posted this up here, do not lie to the police! The forums are probably watched by people who will report this so be careful!

Mr Robbo

1,209 posts

276 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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SplatSpeed. Erm, you can still give a "No Comment" interview.

wrinx

680 posts

271 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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"Sorry, I don't recall the incident you are referring to....do you have anything to refresh my memory Officer?"

Agree with the posts above though, getting out and having a go was your downfall, you showed a lack of control which doesn't look good on the roads. Had a guy follow me for about two or three miles a few weeks ago....for something HE did!!! Thankfully he got bored/calmed down, turned round and drove back on his angry way....

wrinx

Globulator

13,847 posts

262 months

Wednesday 12th December 2007
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Maxx-Waxx said:
The police have now contacted my company needing to speak to me.
Expect the police to have been told a pack of lies.
It's his word against yours.

Therefore the only person who can incriminate yourself is you.

Reagan said it best: "I don't recall".

H_Kan

4,942 posts

230 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Just deny everything or, better still say no comment.

If they have got some proof on it then I would make a counter complaint. Afterall this other chaps driving certainly made you fear for your safety and you felt that you may have been in imminent danger!

tigger1

8,478 posts

252 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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H_Kan said:
Just deny everything or, better still say no comment.

If they have got some proof on it then I would make a counter complaint. Afterall this other chaps driving certainly made you fear for your safety and you felt that you may have been in imminent danger!
Is a counter-complaint going to look very "plausible" once you've spent half an hour saying you don't recall an incident?

It's the game of truth or dare...you either be the big man you were trying to be when you got out of the car, put your hand up and admit you did wrong, or you dare to tell a load of boocks, under caution, down at the station...with a fair chance that there's CCTV on or near the junction where you got out of your car and threatened somebody.

Zero sympathy here I'm afraid. YOU Mr Brunt are one of societies biggest problems right now IMHO - people who can't lead their life without threatening other people with violence.

stepej

445 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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On rare occassions when bib have wanted to speak to me in the past about similar things I've arrived at the station and they have read the statement the other party has given and then asked me for a statement.

They've then let me make another appointment to take my statement allowing me time to go and see a solicitor to seek advice. After all, you don't know what you're being accused of until they tell you.

Past experience tells me that when two peoples statements differ enough, no further action will be taken. After all if there is only you and the other party involved, no independent witness, no damage to either cars or people, then who is to say who is telling the truth?

NOTE: My experience is from the dim and distant past, perhaps things have changed now.