2 cars one I.d. tax & MOT
2 cars one I.d. tax & MOT
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Rotor

Original Poster:

300 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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My mate came up with this thought the other day,
Two cars with the same plates, 1 lot of tax and of
course 1 mot.The real car would have insurence therfore
could also be driven 3rd party by someone else, which
would cover the other car for someone else to drive
if you follow me.
The cars would be the same colour make model.
The tax disc would be lost and a duplicate appied for.
Now he knows he would be breaking the law and would be
punished but if the cars were say 5 miles apart say with family how would he be caught?


vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Rotor said:
My mate came up with this thought the other day,
Two cars with the same plates, 1 lot of tax and of
course 1 mot.The real car would have insurence therfore
could also be driven 3rd party by someone else, which
would cover the other car for someone else to drive
if you follow me.
The cars would be the same colour make model.
The tax disc would be lost and a duplicate appied for.
Now he knows he would be breaking the law and would be
punished but if the cars were say 5 miles apart say with family how would he be caught?
When he gets stopped by Police.

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Very much doubt the insurance would cover the car as being the main car for somebody who was not the registered keeper, and what would be the registered address? When stopped, are you the owner? Is muggins who is the nominal owner going to pay all the parking fines, speeding tickets etc of the other? How many tax discs do you get?

If you your mate managed to solve the practical problems, I'd like to think that somebody would eventually spot that there are two identical cars, and hopefully both people involved would get a severe kicking.

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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If stopped and engine/chasis number checked that would give it away. If involved in an accident and towed and later inspected someone would be needing a lot of vaseline!

There are enough illegal cars out there already without another wit trying to be the latest.

Rotor

Original Poster:

300 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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The Police, i dont recall ever checking Chassis no's
on any of my cars when being pulled over ? maybe they do now?

oldsoak

5,618 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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So was he pissed when he came up with that gem?
Go on tell me he was..

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Rotor said:
The Police, i dont recall ever checking Chassis no's
on any of my cars when being pulled over ? maybe they do now?
No tax, maybe the driver is being a bit cagey/evasive. Might be worth checking the car properly. Maybe somone has tipped off the BiB...

oldsoak

5,618 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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wasted years said:
Rotor said:
The Police, i dont recall ever checking Chassis no's
on any of my cars when being pulled over ? maybe they do now?
No tax, maybe the driver is being a bit cagey/evasive. Might be worth checking the car properly. Maybe somone has tipped off the BiB...
And maybe the DVLA noticing that two cars are registered to 'his mate' and yet only one is being taxed....

falcemob

8,248 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Rotor said:
The Police, i dont recall ever checking Chassis no's
on any of my cars when being pulled over ? maybe they do now?
They always used to check chassis numbers when I ever got pulled up, thankfully I haven't been stopped for years so not sure if they still do.

As for the OP, what's the point of the exercise anyway?

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Rotor said:
The Police, i dont recall ever checking Chassis no's
on any of my cars when being pulled over ?
Being pulled over by the BiB is a regular occurrence for you, then?

For me it isn't, but if 'your mate' tends to get pulled over a lot that must greatly increase the chance that he would be caught and get a well deserved kicking for driving with no tax, MOT or insurance.

Rotor

Original Poster:

300 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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would be a crazy risk if found out, just to save
years car tax and MOT on one car, but I bet you could get away with it UNTILL the copy car had an accident
needing repair, and req. towing away.?

oldsoak

5,618 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Rotor said:
would be a crazy risk if found out, just to save
years car tax and MOT on one car, but I bet you could get away with it UNTILL the copy car had an accident
needing repair, and req. towing away.?
Go on then I'll have £10 's worth of that action what odds are you giving?

Rotor

Original Poster:

300 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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I've been 'pulled' 3 times in 23 years good or bad ?
last time four years ago.
I have to say though I was talking him out of the idea
but he 'did' seem to have it covered?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Rotor said:
The Police, i dont recall ever checking Chassis no's
on any of my cars when being pulled over ? maybe they do now?
You better hope it's not me that stops you then.

Rotor

Original Poster:

300 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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your welcome to check mine, but I WILL let him know
thanks that solves that one

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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only time plod ever checked the chassis number when ive been pulled went as follows

car re-registered on Q-plate, i built it out of two sheds
tax disc etc from dvla arrived, i got plates mate & went out that night in it
plod stops me
plod points to numberplate & says whats that?
i say a number plate
plod says dont be cheeky its not on our computer
i say computer is out of date
plod says no
i point to tax disc & say issued dvla, computer out of date
plod mutters
plod checks chassis number, i quote old reg for it
plod checks engine number, i quote old reg & point out it matches the etching on the windows
an hour or so has passed (inc waiting for checks) plod lets me go saying dont do it again
do what again? drive a legal car legally?

:shakesheadatdaftnessofasystemthatdoesntstayuptodate:

Richard C

1,685 posts

288 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Rotor said:
My mate came up with this thought the other day,
Two cars with the same plates, 1 lot of tax and of
course 1 mot.The real car would have insurence therfore
could also be driven 3rd party by someone else, which
would cover the other car for someone else to drive
if you follow me.
The cars would be the same colour make model.
The tax disc would be lost and a duplicate appied for.
Now he knows he would be breaking the law and would be
punished but if the cars were say 5 miles apart say with family how would he be caught?
Its been done many times before. Over the years several persons I know of have had two cars one plates. It probably becomes difficult to justify duplicate disks every 12 months.

Rotor

Original Poster:

300 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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If you had 2-3 cars the same you could change the "main'
car each year with three owners and address names each in turn.You would have to be good friends though and live well apart. this seems to be a loophole.
obvioussly only done with old sheds of same type and colour. These are the thoughts of my friend, I only have
newish/valuable cars, I argued with him it could not be done but he shot me down everytime.

Rotor

Original Poster:

300 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Mods feel free to delete this post if you feel it
would give anyone silly ideas, thanks...

Paul V

4,489 posts

308 months

Saturday 15th December 2007
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Often happened when I was in the MOT trade, pikey market lot would have one good van and that would be taken for all the MOT's etc, all white transits and when a tester sees so many cars a day he's not likely to notice the same van appearing every few months.