Nazis strike again!
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Ok maybe not quite as dramatic as that.
I parked up on a side road on a single yellow earlier. I was literally there for 10 mins picking something up, unfortunately I didn't notice the wardens come into the road as they used an unmarked van.
The road has a single yellow line and couple of small signs on lampposts saying the controlled hours, they also took photos of the sign and the car.
Was just wondering if there were any technicalities I could look for to invalidate the ticket. I know I was in the wrong but tbh I could do without losing £50 and if there is anything they haven't complied with then I don't see anything wrong in exploiting it. If not then I guess I'll have to take the hit.
Anyway I'll hand it over the the PH massive!
I parked up on a side road on a single yellow earlier. I was literally there for 10 mins picking something up, unfortunately I didn't notice the wardens come into the road as they used an unmarked van.
The road has a single yellow line and couple of small signs on lampposts saying the controlled hours, they also took photos of the sign and the car.
Was just wondering if there were any technicalities I could look for to invalidate the ticket. I know I was in the wrong but tbh I could do without losing £50 and if there is anything they haven't complied with then I don't see anything wrong in exploiting it. If not then I guess I'll have to take the hit.
Anyway I'll hand it over the the PH massive!
If it is just a single yellow line then it means no waiting at the times specified. You are allowed to stop to load and unload. So you may have a defence there. If there are yellow marks on the kerb then it's no loading/unloading at the times shown.
The yellow line should be unbroken and needs to be properly terminated with an end bar. If this is not the case then get some photos and appeal it.
Cat
The yellow line should be unbroken and needs to be properly terminated with an end bar. If this is not the case then get some photos and appeal it.
Cat
somouk said:
You are only allowed to park during the allotted times. Sorry but hand over a £50 tax and don't pass go.
Mart
Wrong. The correct course of action is to go to www.pepipoo.com forums and ask there.Mart
Do not pay £50. Pass Go.
slow_poke said:
BOF said:
'I know I was in the wrong '
Nuff said?
BOF.
Not at all. The Authorities need to present a compelling and competent case against, otherwise there's no need to play their game.Nuff said?
BOF.
I'm sorry, a bit of discretion would have made me count myself lucky and be much more certain to avoid doing this again. The fine means I won't do it again, but if I see this warden again then he is going to cop a whole lot of abuse from me. Fair enough he is only doing his job but if that includes fining people with no discretion and in a manner akin to daylight robbery then I have no compunction about giving the nazi a hard time.
Unfortunately after reading pepipoo, on initial inspection it doesn't look like there are any defences I can employ.
H_Kan said:
Unfortunately after reading pepipoo, on initial inspection it doesn't look like there are any defences I can employ.
Have you posted?Unless the authorities follow the law they cannot prosecute you. A simple technical mistake could mean you haven't committed an offence.
You must post and ask.
H_Kan said:
slow_poke said:
BOF said:
'I know I was in the wrong '
Nuff said?
BOF.
Not at all. The Authorities need to present a compelling and competent case against, otherwise there's no need to play their game.Nuff said?
BOF.
I'm sorry, a bit of discretion would have made me count myself lucky and be much more certain to avoid doing this again. The fine means I won't do it again, but if I see this warden again then he is going to cop a whole lot of abuse from me. Fair enough he is only doing his job but if that includes fining people with no discretion and in a manner akin to daylight robbery then I have no compunction about giving the nazi a hard time.
Unfortunately after reading pepipoo, on initial inspection it doesn't look like there are any defences I can employ.
A bit of discretion would avoid doing it again! Why do it in the first place if you can't handle the punishment.
You are right he/she was only doing their job they don't decide how much the penalty charge is! What is it about you that thinks you should be singled out for a chat rather than a ticket, do you honestly think that they should go about making mental notes on who has/hasn't previously been dealt with?
One thing is for sure though irrespective of what job you do you should be able to do it without fear of physical or verbal abuse, yet you seem to think that some how you getting caught for a minor offence justifies you having a go at someone else! Wind your neck in man!
Grow up and start taking responsibility for your own actions, think before you act then maybe you won't have to resort to such desperate measures to try and get away with an offence you know you committed or next time you may just find yourself in the nick!
Thanks Parrot, going away for a couple of days but will certainly post when I get back, may well be lucky.
GSICAV, the side street is a poorly lit access road which is primarily an exit from the somerfield carpark and is used to serve the back entrances of other small shops etc. The road is quite wide so parked vehicles are not at all in the way of other traffic. As it was so poorly lit, and I only ever go there in the evenings when it is dark I didn't actually realise a yellow line was there.
The parking wardens came in an unmarked van and this to me signals that there primary motivation isn't discouragement but revenue generation. IMO this is a pretty low job where you slap somebody with a £50 penalty for inadvertantly breaking a parking regulation, when they can ill afford to pay. (I am a student, oh and the break away is a treat from my other half). I was gone less then 10 minutes, was apologetic and clearly was willing to move my car but they weren't interested. IMO this is akin to daylight robbery, justified by them doing it in the course of employment- so yeah if I saw the guy again then he probably would cop some abuse. I'm not talking about knocking him out, but I don't see anything wrong in telling him what a despicable human being I feel he is.
GSICAV, the side street is a poorly lit access road which is primarily an exit from the somerfield carpark and is used to serve the back entrances of other small shops etc. The road is quite wide so parked vehicles are not at all in the way of other traffic. As it was so poorly lit, and I only ever go there in the evenings when it is dark I didn't actually realise a yellow line was there.
The parking wardens came in an unmarked van and this to me signals that there primary motivation isn't discouragement but revenue generation. IMO this is a pretty low job where you slap somebody with a £50 penalty for inadvertantly breaking a parking regulation, when they can ill afford to pay. (I am a student, oh and the break away is a treat from my other half). I was gone less then 10 minutes, was apologetic and clearly was willing to move my car but they weren't interested. IMO this is akin to daylight robbery, justified by them doing it in the course of employment- so yeah if I saw the guy again then he probably would cop some abuse. I'm not talking about knocking him out, but I don't see anything wrong in telling him what a despicable human being I feel he is.
H_Kan][ ... said:
As it was so poorly lit, and I only ever go there in the evenings when it is dark I didn't actually realise a yellow line was there. ...
Presumably you only go there during the winter evenings, or is the time of your visits variable to suit the sun? BTW, I am no apologist for the enforcement of unlawful regulations (i.e. where their application does not stand the test of conformance to their specification) - StreakyH_Kan said:
Thanks Parrot, going away for a couple of days but will certainly post when I get back, may well be lucky.
GSICAV, the side street is a poorly lit access road which is primarily an exit from the somerfield carpark and is used to serve the back entrances of other small shops etc. The road is quite wide so parked vehicles are not at all in the way of other traffic. As it was so poorly lit, and I only ever go there in the evenings when it is dark I didn't actually realise a yellow line was there.
The parking wardens came in an unmarked van and this to me signals that there primary motivation isn't discouragement but revenue generation. IMO this is a pretty low job where you slap somebody with a £50 penalty for inadvertantly breaking a parking regulation, when they can ill afford to pay. (I am a student, oh and the break away is a treat from my other half). I was gone less then 10 minutes, was apologetic and clearly was willing to move my car but they weren't interested. IMO this is akin to daylight robbery, justified by them doing it in the course of employment- so yeah if I saw the guy again then he probably would cop some abuse. I'm not talking about knocking him out, but I don't see anything wrong in telling him what a despicable human being I feel he is.
You may not be happy about it and I obviously don't know the area you refer to but I don't imagine the restrictions are their for the hell of it.GSICAV, the side street is a poorly lit access road which is primarily an exit from the somerfield carpark and is used to serve the back entrances of other small shops etc. The road is quite wide so parked vehicles are not at all in the way of other traffic. As it was so poorly lit, and I only ever go there in the evenings when it is dark I didn't actually realise a yellow line was there.
The parking wardens came in an unmarked van and this to me signals that there primary motivation isn't discouragement but revenue generation. IMO this is a pretty low job where you slap somebody with a £50 penalty for inadvertantly breaking a parking regulation, when they can ill afford to pay. (I am a student, oh and the break away is a treat from my other half). I was gone less then 10 minutes, was apologetic and clearly was willing to move my car but they weren't interested. IMO this is akin to daylight robbery, justified by them doing it in the course of employment- so yeah if I saw the guy again then he probably would cop some abuse. I'm not talking about knocking him out, but I don't see anything wrong in telling him what a despicable human being I feel he is.
You say that it services shops so is perhaps used by goods vehicles that need more room to manoeuvre.
Where one car may not cause any real problem one left unchecked would soon lead to two and so on.
I suggest if you think the warden has done something wrong then you go through the proper channels and submit a complaint. Confronting him in the street is neither appropriate or clever and may ultimately lead to you ending up with a conviction as well as the parking ticket.
As a student who presumably has some sort of career ambition you really don't need something on your record that shows you have poor self discipline.
I think you'd be better learning from this and in future don't park where they will be able to give you a ticket.
Edited by G51CAV on Monday 17th December 13:42
just check that the yellow line complies with the road signage regulations.
you'd be amazed how many don't. Can't do you if they don't comply.
Each end much terminate in a 'T' and there must be a plate indicating the times of parking restrictions.
you'd be amazed how many don't. Can't do you if they don't comply.
Each end much terminate in a 'T' and there must be a plate indicating the times of parking restrictions.
Edited by bryan35 on Monday 17th December 13:40
Edited by bryan35 on Monday 17th December 13:41
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