Now 3 million L drivers' details 'lost'
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Apparently the personal details of three million L-drivers were on a hard drive that was 'lost' by Pearson Vue - an American contractor to DVLA - from their facility in the Iowa. They concern people who took the theory test between September 2004 and April 2007. The details include name, address, telephone number and email address. Pearson Vue provide "computer-based testing solutions".
Remember, the USA does not have any Data Protection legislation, but Pearson Vue adheres to the US Commerce Department's 'Safe Harbor' principles. Clearly, in their case - as with some UK government departments, including DVLNI, this does not include compliance with the Seventh Data Protection Principle: "Appropriate technical and organisational measures shall be taken against ... accidental loss of ... personal data."
Streaky
Remember, the USA does not have any Data Protection legislation, but Pearson Vue adheres to the US Commerce Department's 'Safe Harbor' principles. Clearly, in their case - as with some UK government departments, including DVLNI, this does not include compliance with the Seventh Data Protection Principle: "Appropriate technical and organisational measures shall be taken against ... accidental loss of ... personal data."
Streaky
Edited by streaky on Monday 17th December 18:34
odyssey2200 said:
WTF was the data doing in America?
You assume your data is secure.
Then you find out that the Gov't sends it around by post and loses it
Now you find out its actually being sent all over the world FFS!
Does the Data Protection act stand up in the USA or is it open to abuse?
As I said: "Remember, the USA does not have any Data Protection legislation, but Pearson Vue adheres to the US Commerce Department's 'Safe Harbor' principles. Clearly, in their case - as with some UK government departments, including DVLNI, this does not include compliance with the Seventh Data Protection Principle: 'Appropriate technical and organisational measures shall be taken against ... accidental loss of ... personal data.'" - StreakyYou assume your data is secure.
Then you find out that the Gov't sends it around by post and loses it
Now you find out its actually being sent all over the world FFS!
Does the Data Protection act stand up in the USA or is it open to abuse?
streaky said:
odyssey2200 said:
WTF was the data doing in America?
You assume your data is secure.
Then you find out that the Gov't sends it around by post and loses it
Now you find out its actually being sent all over the world FFS!
Does the Data Protection act stand up in the USA or is it open to abuse?
As I said: "Remember, the USA does not have any Data Protection legislation, but Pearson Vue adheres to the US Commerce Department's 'Safe Harbor' principles. Clearly, in their case - as with some UK government departments, including DVLNI, this does not include compliance with the Seventh Data Protection Principle: 'Appropriate technical and organisational measures shall be taken against ... accidental loss of ... personal data.'" - StreakyYou assume your data is secure.
Then you find out that the Gov't sends it around by post and loses it
Now you find out its actually being sent all over the world FFS!
Does the Data Protection act stand up in the USA or is it open to abuse?
Even as an experienced but amateur user of computers, I cannot understand the need to send physical copies of sensitive, personal data via a slow and insecure postal system, let alone in the personal possesion of an employee.
Surely (shirley?) it would be better to extract the data, zip and encrypt it then send it over the internet using a private key?
Surely (shirley?) it would be better to extract the data, zip and encrypt it then send it over the internet using a private key?
FishFace said:
How often do they send such data? Not that much I'd imagine. Few enough times to hand-deliver it?
Business class to the US? About £5k?Cost of having to stand up in HoP and own up to this? Priceless.
SOMEBODY needs a
ing rocket.Actually...although it has got shitty..I'll edit that picture.
Edited by tigger1 on Monday 17th December 19:11
Apparently lost on site. Loss was reported in May, so shortly after the data were received (whether on a hard drive or not isn't clear).
It's likely that many of the people whose Personal Data were lost are additional to those affected by the HMRC debacle (i.e under 20, so less likely to be in receipt of Child Benefit).
Streaky
It's likely that many of the people whose Personal Data were lost are additional to those affected by the HMRC debacle (i.e under 20, so less likely to be in receipt of Child Benefit).
Streaky
banzai_dan said:
Can someone tell me what, if any, actual risk I'm in? Sidesteping all the hysteria that the red tops are parading about.
Oh and, bloody incompetant muppets.
Your name, address, email and phone number apparently. Which whilst it might be irritating isn't much more than is on the electoral roll and in the phone book and probable less info than many people post about themselves on websites.Oh and, bloody incompetant muppets.
No need to panic...
banzai_dan said:
I took my theory test about december '05, does that mean that my data is among that lost. Can someone tell me what, if any, actual risk I'm in? Sidesteping all the hysteria that the red tops are parading about.
Oh and, bloody incompetant muppets.
Well as I understand it they have your Name, Address, and date of birth, and possibly your driving licence number. To be honest I dont think theres a lot can be done with that data on it's own. But it might help someone start to build up an identity to try and steal. Now they know your name and address they can look you up on facebook and see who you are, who you're friends with etc. Might be lucky and get a maiden name etc.Oh and, bloody incompetant muppets.
To be honest it's probably in a skip/rubbish tip or something and will never see the light of day.
Ive just recieved my letter telling me I need to pay for my next years Data Protection act registration...
£34.95
I am not going to renew.. I am way better than the government at keeping my data safe..
Imagine the govt supposedly sticking to the act and then sending data to a country where the act doesn't apply?
yet more mind boggling hypocrisy.
£34.95
I am not going to renew.. I am way better than the government at keeping my data safe..
Imagine the govt supposedly sticking to the act and then sending data to a country where the act doesn't apply?
yet more mind boggling hypocrisy.
mark69sheer said:
Ive just recieved my letter telling me I need to pay for my next years Data Protection act registration...
£34.95
I am not going to renew.. I am way better than the government at keeping my data safe..
Imagine the govt supposedly sticking to the act and then sending data to a country where the act doesn't apply?
yet more mind boggling hypocrisy.
Oh, dear. Processing Personal Data whilst not registered is an absolute offence. VH, VH, bring your baton and plastic restraints - I see a possible terrorist here, determined to bring down the British establishment! - Streaky£34.95
I am not going to renew.. I am way better than the government at keeping my data safe..
Imagine the govt supposedly sticking to the act and then sending data to a country where the act doesn't apply?
yet more mind boggling hypocrisy.
PS - wait a minute, M69S, I'll come with you - S
Munter said:
banzai_dan said:
I took my theory test about december '05, does that mean that my data is among that lost. Can someone tell me what, if any, actual risk I'm in? Sidesteping all the hysteria that the red tops are parading about.
Oh and, bloody incompetant muppets.
Well as I understand it they have your Name, Address, and date of birth, and possibly your driving licence number. To be honest I dont think theres a lot can be done with that data on it's own. But it might help someone start to build up an identity to try and steal. Now they know your name and address they can look you up on facebook and see who you are, who you're friends with etc. Might be lucky and get a maiden name etc.Oh and, bloody incompetant muppets.
To be honest it's probably in a skip/rubbish tip or something and will never see the light of day.
driverrob said:
mark69sheer said:
Imagine the govt supposedly sticking to the act and then sending data to a country where the act doesn't apply?
I think that'll be the USA, then. They do have a freedom of information act, though.PS - readers may be amused to learn that the ICO website is currently (and has been for several days) reporting: "The online Data Protection Register is currently unavailable as we are carrying out maintenance work to enhance its security." - S
Edited by streaky on Wednesday 19th December 08:07
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