Another police officer dies on duty

[streaky]

(03:05 today) Man arrested in Wembley for assault on a police officer, later arrested for murder after another officer collapsed outside the man's house. A PM is being held to discover cause of death. No further news yet - Streaky

[black1]

he was pushed down some stairs

[Vesuvius 996]

Bad news, although I suspect as the officer was getting on for 50 this is likely to have been a heart attack as a result of exertion.

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

Eggshell skull, anyone?

[Howitzer]

Anyone dying is horrific, doing it while doing your job even more so :-(

Dave!

[Chrispy Porker]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bad news, although I suspect as the officer was getting on for 50 this is likely to have been a heart attack as a result of exertion.

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

Eggshell skull, anyone?

It's odd but there were people arguing for retaining cops well past 50 on this forum not long ago.
I think the gentleman concerned was 48 by the way.

[paddyhasneeds]

Natural Causes apparently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7161773....

Which makes this a bit of an odd soundbite IMO:

Home Office minister Tony McNulty said: "Events such as this highlight the dangers that our police officers face every day when protecting the public."

[Vesuvius 996]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bad news, although I suspect as the officer was getting on for 50 this is likely to have been a heart attack as a result of exertion.

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

Eggshell skull, anyone?

And so it came to pass.

Terribly sad.

I hope they charge the scrote with manslaughter.

[Jasandjules]

What actaully happened? The news said the fellow was arrested for assaulting one PC but a different one collapsed outside? Was he attacked at all?

[Bing o]

Howitzer said:

Anyone dying is horrific, doing it while doing your job even more so :-(

Dave!

Why?

[Vixpy1]

Bing o said:

Howitzer said:

Anyone dying is horrific, doing it while doing your job even more so :-(

Dave!

Why?

Because no one looks good on the bog.

[paddyhasneeds]

Jasandjules said:

What actaully happened? The news said the fellow was arrested for assaulting one PC but a different one collapsed outside? Was he attacked at all?

I don't think it's been reported (reliably) yet. Which is why I find Vesuvius's comments about "Charge the scrote with Manslaughter" a little premature tbh.

'Suv - on what basis given what we actually know rather than assume?

[mattley]

Vesuvius 996 said:

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

I bet he is, especially if it's as reported by the Independent.

"A man in his 30s was arrested at the address for assaulting a police officer. It is understood that following the alleged assault, another officer collapsed and died outside the house. "

Murder seems ridiculous, and just looks like a revenge fitup, which doesn't do justice or the police any favours. As ever in these things, we just don't know enough yet.

It's still a terrible thing to lose a BiB though, there aren't enough of you as it is.

[Teppic]

Looks like the PC died of natural causes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7161773....

BBC News said:

Arrest Pc died from heart disease

A policeman who collapsed after making an arrest in north London died from natural causes, tests have shown.

Pc Chris Roberts, 47, died from heart disease after attending a domestic incident in Brinkburn Gardens, Edgware.

The father of three was part of a team of officers called to the address at 1745 GMT on Boxing Day.

A man aged in his 30s had been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of Pc Roberts, who had been with the Metropolitan Police since 1983.

Met Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said: "I am deeply saddened by the death of one of my officers - a father of three - while on duty, and my thoughts go out to his family, friends and colleagues, especially at this time of year."

Home Office minister Tony McNulty said: "Events such as this highlight the dangers that our police officers face every day when protecting the public."

The Association of Chief Police Officers also offered its condolences.

Two other police officers have died on duty this year.

On 6 May Pc Richard Gray was shot by a man after attending a domestic incident in Shrewsbury. The man then committed suicide by shooting himself.

In June 36-year-old Pc Jonathan Charles Henry was fatally stabbed in Luton. A man is awaiting trial accused of his murder.

[streaky]

Chrispy Porker said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bad news, although I suspect as the officer was getting on for 50 this is likely to have been a heart attack as a result of exertion.

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

Eggshell skull, anyone?

It's odd but there were people arguing for retaining cops well past 50 on this forum not long ago. ...

But not in active, front-line, on-the-street policing roles, IIRC - Streaky

[Bing o]

streaky said:

Chrispy Porker said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bad news, although I suspect as the officer was getting on for 50 this is likely to have been a heart attack as a result of exertion.

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

Eggshell skull, anyone?

It's odd but there were people arguing for retaining cops well past 50 on this forum not long ago. ...

But not in active, front-line, on-the-street policing roles, IIRC - Streaky

I don't see why not - an older face may get more respect than some spotty faced 20 something with a buzz cut.

Age alone should not be a barrier to being a beat plod.

[Chrispy Porker]

Bing o said:

streaky said:

Chrispy Porker said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bad news, although I suspect as the officer was getting on for 50 this is likely to have been a heart attack as a result of exertion.

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

Eggshell skull, anyone?

It's odd but there were people arguing for retaining cops well past 50 on this forum not long ago. ...

But not in active, front-line, on-the-street policing roles, IIRC - Streaky

I don't see why not - an older face may get more respect than some spotty faced 20 something with a buzz cut.

Age alone should not be a barrier to being a beat plod.

Think about it though.
More than 25 years on shifts screws you up physically.
Rolling around on the floor with, and chasing yobs young enough to be your grandchildren?
No. Street policing is a game for young fit people.
I for one would be completely fecked if I had to go back to shift work on the streets.

[Bing o]

Chrispy Porker said:

Bing o said:

streaky said:

Chrispy Porker said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bad news, although I suspect as the officer was getting on for 50 this is likely to have been a heart attack as a result of exertion.

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

Eggshell skull, anyone?

It's odd but there were people arguing for retaining cops well past 50 on this forum not long ago. ...

But not in active, front-line, on-the-street policing roles, IIRC - Streaky

I don't see why not - an older face may get more respect than some spotty faced 20 something with a buzz cut.

Age alone should not be a barrier to being a beat plod.

Think about it though.
More than 25 years on shifts screws you up physically.
Rolling around on the floor with, and chasing yobs young enough to be your grandchildren?
No. Street policing is a game for young fit people.
I for one would be completely fecked if I had to go back to shift work on the streets.

I should have put the "capable of passing the physical" caveat in there...

[Chrispy Porker]

Bing o said:

Chrispy Porker said:

Bing o said:

streaky said:

Chrispy Porker said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Bad news, although I suspect as the officer was getting on for 50 this is likely to have been a heart attack as a result of exertion.

I bet the scrote he arrested is sh1tting his pants. And rightly so.

Eggshell skull, anyone?

It's odd but there were people arguing for retaining cops well past 50 on this forum not long ago. ...

But not in active, front-line, on-the-street policing roles, IIRC - Streaky

I don't see why not - an older face may get more respect than some spotty faced 20 something with a buzz cut.

Age alone should not be a barrier to being a beat plod.

Think about it though.
More than 25 years on shifts screws you up physically.
Rolling around on the floor with, and chasing yobs young enough to be your grandchildren?
No. Street policing is a game for young fit people.
I for one would be completely fecked if I had to go back to shift work on the streets.

I should have put the "capable of passing the physical" caveat in there...

I suspect the numbers who could achieve that would be tiny.

[Bing o]

Chrispy Porker said:

I suspect the numbers who could achieve that would be tiny.

But why discriminate on age alone? (As it's illegal these days...)

[Chrispy Porker]

I am not saying that.
What I am saying is that the number of officers over 50 who are mentally and physically capable of working shifts on the streets is tiny.