Done... twice in a week!
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Not me! A good friend has been done twice for speeding last week, the annoying thing is both times were on roads that used to have a 60 limit, but now lowered to stupidly low limits for no sensible reason.
First time was Dec 17th along a stretch of the A38 near Highbridge, lowered to 30 from 40 and before that 60, it really is difficult to crawl that slow along that wide straight road. Scamera van in a lay-by and NIP arrives this morning for 36 mph.
Second time was christmas eve, pulled by a police car doing 50 in a 40 limit along a B road in the sticks, recently lowered from a NSL. No houses or pavements around for half a mile. BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve. BiB also wanted to confiscate her car because insurance didn't show up on his data base, but after pleading that she was insured he let her off with a producer (+ speeding ticket) because she had two children in the car.
Some will say she should have been more observant and I would agree, but surely a warning from the BiB would have done more good than alienating her for such a petty offence?
As for the scam van, IMO to be prosecuted for 36 on an ex-NSL A road is a total farce. The 85th percentile speed of that road is still above 40 despite the ridiculous 30 limit. The scammers will always have rich pickings there and don't they know it.
Can anyone beat Two tickets this christmas?
First time was Dec 17th along a stretch of the A38 near Highbridge, lowered to 30 from 40 and before that 60, it really is difficult to crawl that slow along that wide straight road. Scamera van in a lay-by and NIP arrives this morning for 36 mph.
Second time was christmas eve, pulled by a police car doing 50 in a 40 limit along a B road in the sticks, recently lowered from a NSL. No houses or pavements around for half a mile. BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve. BiB also wanted to confiscate her car because insurance didn't show up on his data base, but after pleading that she was insured he let her off with a producer (+ speeding ticket) because she had two children in the car.
Some will say she should have been more observant and I would agree, but surely a warning from the BiB would have done more good than alienating her for such a petty offence?
As for the scam van, IMO to be prosecuted for 36 on an ex-NSL A road is a total farce. The 85th percentile speed of that road is still above 40 despite the ridiculous 30 limit. The scammers will always have rich pickings there and don't they know it.
Can anyone beat Two tickets this christmas?
deeps said:
Not me! A good friend has been done twice for speeding last week, the annoying thing is both times were on roads that used to have a 60 limit, but now lowered to stupidly low limits for money making reasons
Edited for accuracy.And yes, another mainly law abiding person thinks less of the police.. Such is life.
You wouldn't normally get a ticket for 50 in a 40 unless your attitude was such a verbal warning wasn't appropriate.
Equally the car was almost certainly pulled after a check showed it as 'No Insurance' coupled with the fact is was speeding.
If the database showed No Insurance and I couldn't have done further checks due to the hour of day, etc the lady would have got a No Insurance ticket - if, ultimately she was insured then the ticket is NFA'd + I always explain this to the driver .... that way if they genuinely know they are insured (and only they know that) they won't worry.
Equally the car was almost certainly pulled after a check showed it as 'No Insurance' coupled with the fact is was speeding.
If the database showed No Insurance and I couldn't have done further checks due to the hour of day, etc the lady would have got a No Insurance ticket - if, ultimately she was insured then the ticket is NFA'd + I always explain this to the driver .... that way if they genuinely know they are insured (and only they know that) they won't worry.
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
mybrainhurts said:
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
in idiot ?vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
I thought only police advanced drivers in traffic cars can provide evidence that a vehicle exceeded the speed limit, and issue a ticket...?
Am I wrong..?
mybrainhurts said:
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
I thought only police advanced drivers in traffic cars can provide evidence that a vehicle exceeded the speed limit, and issue a ticket...?
Am I wrong..?
Any Police officer can.
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
There lies the problem, you see a sensible Rabbit would not have ran out on to an NSL road as he knew that it was dangerous but as the limit has been lowered said Rabbit has now acquired a false sense of 'security' and now wanders aimlessly around in the road in a semi-comatose, brain-dead nu-labour way.
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
I thought only police advanced drivers in traffic cars can provide evidence that a vehicle exceeded the speed limit, and issue a ticket...?
Am I wrong..?
Any Police officer can.
If so, where's the evidence to back a ticket in the absence of a traffic car..?
Edited by mybrainhurts on Friday 28th December 19:11
mybrainhurts said:
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
I thought only police advanced drivers in traffic cars can provide evidence that a vehicle exceeded the speed limit, and issue a ticket...?
Am I wrong..?
Any Police officer can.
mybrainhurts said:
If so, where's the evidence to back a ticket in the absence of a traffic car..?
And evidence from a calibrated speedo is not a pre-requisite for a successful speeding prosecution. mybrainhurts said:
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
I thought only police advanced drivers in traffic cars can provide evidence that a vehicle exceeded the speed limit, and issue a ticket...?
Am I wrong..?
Any Police officer can.
If so, where's the evidence to back a ticket in the absence of a traffic car..?
Edited by mybrainhurts on Friday 28th December 19:11
I have only been pulled once for being too heavy right footed. Over took one car doing about 60 and came up to a 5 year old corsa diesel in front. A cloud of diesel came from the corsa so naturally I though these actions warrented a drop in gear and a full charge. Full charge it was as I really cained it passed the cra~~y corsa with a nice growl from my V6. I came upto a roundabout where the lane split into 2 lanes, so to avoid the corsa driver getting one over me (and giving me the birdie!) I blocked both lanes to prevent him passing!.
My journey was brought to an abrupt end shortly after as the corsa driver was amazingly plod. Very looky it was not a traffic cop and he could only guess my speed to be around 85!.
But good points about lower speed limits to catch speeders. Figures show that accident rates in some of the worst black spots have not decreased because of cameras being installed. Happy motoring all.
My journey was brought to an abrupt end shortly after as the corsa driver was amazingly plod. Very looky it was not a traffic cop and he could only guess my speed to be around 85!.
But good points about lower speed limits to catch speeders. Figures show that accident rates in some of the worst black spots have not decreased because of cameras being installed. Happy motoring all.
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
vonhosen said:
mybrainhurts said:
odyssey2200 said:
deeps said:
BiB suggested a rabbit could have ran out and caused my friend to swerve.
road kill time and bye bye bunny!
It's this kind of blind idiocy that's destroying the credibility of the police.
Why do they let such fools qualify as police advanced drivers? They really ought to incorporate psychological screening in the test and chuck people like this off the course...
I thought only police advanced drivers in traffic cars can provide evidence that a vehicle exceeded the speed limit, and issue a ticket...?
Am I wrong..?
Any Police officer can.
mybrainhurts said:
If so, where's the evidence to back a ticket in the absence of a traffic car..?
And evidence from a calibrated speedo is not a pre-requisite for a successful speeding prosecution. quattrophenia said:
I have only been pulled once for being too heavy right footed. Over took one car doing about 60 and came up to a 5 year old corsa diesel in front. A cloud of diesel came from the corsa so naturally I though these actions warrented a drop in gear and a full charge. Full charge it was as I really cained it passed the cra~~y corsa with a nice growl from my V6. I came upto a roundabout where the lane split into 2 lanes, so to avoid the corsa driver getting one over me (and giving me the birdie!) I blocked both lanes to prevent him passing!.
Sounds like you deserved a ticket for DWDCA or DD - certainly there should be an offense of driving like a complete cockend.Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff