pushbike = pedestrian on zebracrossing ?
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Had a guy on a pushbike (driving on the curb, almost running over pedestrians) jump in front of me flying over the zebracrossing the other day.
Wasn't impressed with that so i gave the airhorn a little blast but then my collegue said he had right of way.
But i thought a zebracrossing is for pedetrians, not other roadusers.
If he gets off and holds the bike in his hand then he has the right of way on a zebra crossing, but if he's on his pushbike he doesn't, correct ?
Normally i stop for the mum + kids or the guy-going-to-work if they cycle across the zebracrossing but this was just an annoying nobhead (on one of those bikes with no sadle) so he deserved to be airhorned but my collegue and i both think we're right on this matter so i thought i just say what the experts over here say.
Wasn't impressed with that so i gave the airhorn a little blast but then my collegue said he had right of way.
But i thought a zebracrossing is for pedetrians, not other roadusers.
If he gets off and holds the bike in his hand then he has the right of way on a zebra crossing, but if he's on his pushbike he doesn't, correct ?
Normally i stop for the mum + kids or the guy-going-to-work if they cycle across the zebracrossing but this was just an annoying nobhead (on one of those bikes with no sadle) so he deserved to be airhorned but my collegue and i both think we're right on this matter so i thought i just say what the experts over here say.
Edited by Medic-one on Monday 31st December 17:37
vonhosen said:
are you willing you willing to assert any right of way you believe you may have by using your few tons of ambulance against his frail body ?
Offcourse not.I had already seen him, eventhough he was flying around on his bike with no lights on (and it was late at night in a poorly lit street) and had already anticipated him doing that so i didn't even need to slam the brakes (wasn't going fast anyway as well) just stopped and hoped the car next to me (double lane) saw him as well and stopped to. And when he fly out in front of us without looking i beeped him once, he was creating a dangerous situation and the car next to me might not have stopped so there was nothing wrong with my beeping.
And it does matter if he had right of way or not because that's what this whole topic is about.
Do cyclists have to right of way when they cycle over a pedestrian zebracrossing or not.
Edited by Medic-one on Monday 31st December 18:03
vonhosen said:
No matter who has right of way, what do you think you should be reasonably anticipating in the circumstances ?
& are you willing you willing to assert any right of way you believe you may have by using your few tons of ambulance against his frail body ?
Agree ...& are you willing you willing to assert any right of way you believe you may have by using your few tons of ambulance against his frail body ?
... but,in answer to your question, and I'm I sure someone (Von ....
) will correct me if I'm wrong ...At a zebra crossing, you need give way when a person steps onto the crossing, so if someone is standing waiting, and you don't stop, I believe that providing they haven't steped onto it, no offence is committed. Of course, not advised and I will stop in anticipation that they will cross ... but, if therefore someone cycles across, then they have not stepped onto the crossing ...
However, you still ain't allowed to squish the buggers ...
Martin
Edited by mph999 on Monday 31st December 20:46
Santa Claws said:
They're "targets".
Why do you think when God was designing the Land Rover, he had a GREAT idea for "bull bars". You see, even back in biblical times, cyclists were a problem.
What would Jesus do?
He didn't have anything to do with Land Rover - according to the Bible Jesus went up the mountain in his Triumph Why do you think when God was designing the Land Rover, he had a GREAT idea for "bull bars". You see, even back in biblical times, cyclists were a problem.
What would Jesus do?
SS HSV said:
Santa Claws said:
They're "targets".
Why do you think when God was designing the Land Rover, he had a GREAT idea for "bull bars". You see, even back in biblical times, cyclists were a problem.
What would Jesus do?
He didn't have anything to do with Land Rover - according to the Bible Jesus went up the mountain in his Triumph Why do you think when God was designing the Land Rover, he had a GREAT idea for "bull bars". You see, even back in biblical times, cyclists were a problem.
What would Jesus do?
HA 1835 sect 72 & R(S)A 1984, sect 129
You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.
Pavement peddlers should be considered vermin, and as such the use of inordinate and excessive force is permitted.
Especially ones who have no lights, no concern for the legitimate users of the pavement (shoppers parking their BMW X5's etc..), and those who continue to advocate the relentless slaughter of Tortoises and Terrapins for cranial adornments.
I agree. We are short of organ doners.
You MUST NOT cycle on a pavement.
Pavement peddlers should be considered vermin, and as such the use of inordinate and excessive force is permitted.
Especially ones who have no lights, no concern for the legitimate users of the pavement (shoppers parking their BMW X5's etc..), and those who continue to advocate the relentless slaughter of Tortoises and Terrapins for cranial adornments.
I agree. We are short of organ doners.
fangio said:
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My driving instructor told me if you wanted to take a bike across a zebra crossing, you needed to carry it (i.e. you can't push it, and you can't ride it).
That's my understanding, too!
So does a young mother have to carry her pram across? Load of nonsense!My driving instructor told me if you wanted to take a bike across a zebra crossing, you needed to carry it (i.e. you can't push it, and you can't ride it).
That's my understanding, too!
ETA: I am not suggesting you are permitted to cycle across, but pushing a bike is permitted, obviously. What if it had a flat tyre and you were walking it home, for instance?
Edited by SJobson on Thursday 3rd January 17:42
I see what you mean about carrying them across - seems a bit daft.
HOWEVER a bicycle is a ridiculous form of transport. If they are on the road they are an obstruction to the progress of proper (ie motor) vehicles and if they are on the pavement they are a danger to pedestrians.
awaits flaming by all the cyclists
HOWEVER a bicycle is a ridiculous form of transport. If they are on the road they are an obstruction to the progress of proper (ie motor) vehicles and if they are on the pavement they are a danger to pedestrians.
awaits flaming by all the cyclists
BruceV8 said:
I see what you mean about carrying them across - seems a bit daft.
HOWEVER a bicycle is a ridiculous form of transport. If they are on the road they are an obstruction to the progress of proper (ie motor) vehicles and if they are on the pavement they are a danger to pedestrians.
awaits flaming by all the cyclists
No need to wait for cyclists to comment.HOWEVER a bicycle is a ridiculous form of transport. If they are on the road they are an obstruction to the progress of proper (ie motor) vehicles and if they are on the pavement they are a danger to pedestrians.
awaits flaming by all the cyclists
Before making more posts such as the above, you may do well to recall that famous advice:
"Better to stay silent and be thought possibly to be a fool, than to speak up and leave no room for doubt."
flemke said:
BruceV8 said:
I see what you mean about carrying them across - seems a bit daft.
HOWEVER a bicycle is a ridiculous form of transport. If they are on the road they are an obstruction to the progress of proper (ie motor) vehicles and if they are on the pavement they are a danger to pedestrians.
awaits flaming by all the cyclists
No need to wait for cyclists to comment.HOWEVER a bicycle is a ridiculous form of transport. If they are on the road they are an obstruction to the progress of proper (ie motor) vehicles and if they are on the pavement they are a danger to pedestrians.
awaits flaming by all the cyclists
Before making more posts such as the above, you may do well to recall that famous advice:
"Better to stay silent and be thought possibly to be a fool, than to speak up and leave no room for doubt."
? I will say that my experience of cyclists in and around London has largely been negative. If I base my opinions on my experiences and that makes me a fool, then so be it.Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff