in my 2 yr probation driving license
in my 2 yr probation driving license
Author
Discussion

zoers

Original Poster:

11 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
hi can any1 help me with some advice...i passed my test in dec 05..in feb 06 i got pulled for speeding and ws issued with 3 points, in oct 07 i got pulled again for doing 41 in a 30 mph zone, this area ws an industrial estate which i presumed was a 40mph area, and being able 2 see the police visable from 500 yards also on the strip of rd there are no signs tht say 30mph but is 1 just b4 an island, so because im in my 2yr probation limit i have been issued to court, now all this happened in oct 07 my summons was issued on 3rd dec07 and my 2yr probation driving ended on the 6th dec....i have wrote to the courts and pleaded guilty also i have set up a new business but do not have proof of this yet as im still in my 3mth limit b4 i have to declare it to inland revenue...has any1 any idea if they will revoke my license from me or do you think il be given a big fat fine and be able to keep my license...any advice would be appreciate cheers

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
Always ask for advice *before* you take action.

You may be lucky though, as as long as the points are not applied to your licence within the two years, if the rules are the same as for totting up then you will be OK.

If you had pleaded not guilty, this could have delayed things by six months before it came to court, and bought you some more time before you change your plea...

zoers

Original Poster:

11 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
ok cheers for that but my 2year probation ended on 6th dec 07,,,,and my court hearing is on 22 of this month,.....so im really unsure how i stand in it all.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
JustinP1 said:
Always ask for advice *before* you take action.

You may be lucky though, as as long as the points are not applied to your licence within the two years, if the rules are the same as for totting up then you will be OK.

If you had pleaded not guilty, this could have delayed things by six months before it came to court, and bought you some more time before you change your plea...
It's within 2 years from the date of your oass to the date of the offense, not the Court case...

And I hope that the OP willl learn the highway code properly next time.

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
Bing o said:
JustinP1 said:
Always ask for advice *before* you take action.

You may be lucky though, as as long as the points are not applied to your licence within the two years, if the rules are the same as for totting up then you will be OK.

If you had pleaded not guilty, this could have delayed things by six months before it came to court, and bought you some more time before you change your plea...
It's within 2 years from the date of your oass to the date of the offense, not the Court case...

And I hope that the OP willl learn the highway code properly next time.
Thats bad luck for the OP then, I thought if it was for the same as the totting up rules, he may have been OK.

Looks like a trip to the test centre is going to be coming then...

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
JustinP1 said:
You may be lucky though, as as long as the points are not applied to your licence within the two years, if the rules are the same as for totting up then you will be OK.
confused

Points are deemed effective from the date of the offence, not from the date of conviction nor from when they appear on the licence.

With regard to the New Drivers' Act and the probationary period, if a driver amasses 6 or more points within 2 years of passing their first driving test, then their licence will be revoked.

JustinP1 said:
If you had pleaded not guilty, this could have delayed things by six months before it came to cour, and bought you some more time before you change your plea...
Which would have delayed matters but not prevented the licence from being revoked.

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
SS2. said:
JustinP1 said:
You may be lucky though, as as long as the points are not applied to your licence within the two years, if the rules are the same as for totting up then you will be OK.
confused

Points are deemed effective from the date of the offence, not from the date of conviction nor from when they appear on the licence.

With regard to the New Drivers' Act and the probationary period, if a driver amasses 6 or more points within 2 years of passing their first driving test, then their licence will be revoked.

JustinP1 said:
If you had pleaded not guilty, this could have delayed things by six months before it came to cour, and bought you some more time before you change your plea...
Which would have delayed matters but not prevented the licence from being revoked.
Correctly said. Expect a disqualification and re-test.

zoers

Original Poster:

11 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
guessed as much.....o an he`s a she lol....wont they look kindly on my case as ive set up a business an have 3 children...????

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
yup ya buggered. maybe you'll read the highway code better for the next test? 30 limits are not signed EXCEPT at the begining & end.

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
wasted years said:
Expect a disqualification and re-test.
nerd A licence revocation, not a disqualification.

zoers

Original Poster:

11 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
yes maybe but this rd was originally a 50mph rd and as i hadnt been down this route for a while...was un aware the speed limit had been changed....its a dual carriage way...so would not expect it to be a 30mph and is also not a built up area...

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
Hooli said:
yup ya buggered. maybe you'll read the highway code better for the next test? 30 limits are not signed EXCEPT at the begining & end.
In response to the OP's question - no the regs say you must be disqualified and test re-taken.
In answer to this one - not quite. If street lighting is present and no more than 182.88 metres apart then the speed limit will be 30mph. nerd

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
wasted years said:
Expect a disqualification and re-test.
nerd A licence revocation, not a disqualification.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
zoers said:
yes maybe but this rd was originally a 50mph rd and as i hadnt been down this route for a while...was un aware the speed limit had been changed....its a dual carriage way...so would not expect it to be a 30mph and is also not a built up area...
Might be worth checking that the council put all the right paper work in when they changed the limit then...

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
SS2. said:
wasted years said:
Expect a disqualification and re-test.
nerd A licence revocation, not a disqualification.
My bad silly

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
zoers said:
yes maybe but this rd was originally a 50mph rd and as i hadnt been down this route for a while...was un aware the speed limit had been changed....its a dual carriage way...so would not expect it to be a 30mph and is also not a built up area...
Time to look forward, not back. In all likelihood you're going to lose your licence. You'll have to re-apply for a provisional, then take your test again. Whether you have to do the whole theory and HP shooting match, I don't know.

If you pass again and pick up another quick 3 points, get a Road Angel or (or something similar). It tells you when you're exceeding the limit for the bit of road you're on.

Best of luck.

tigger1

8,483 posts

252 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2008
quotequote all
wasted years said:
SS2. said:
wasted years said:
Expect a disqualification and re-test.
nerd A licence revocation, not a disqualification.
My bad silly
Your bad what? Silly hair cut?

I believe you meant "my mistake"!

deeps

5,432 posts

272 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
quotequote all
tigger1 said:
wasted years said:
SS2. said:
wasted years said:
Expect a disqualification and re-test.
nerd A licence revocation, not a disqualification.
My bad silly
Your bad what? Silly hair cut?

I believe you meant "my mistake"!
Who cares, it means the same thing, petty speeding offences are a nonsense in terms of road safety.

PottyMouth

470 posts

227 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
quotequote all
Two 3-point offences within 2 years of the test pass mean the licence is revoked by the DVLA; to all intents and purposes it is thrown in the bin.

You have to re-apply for a provisional licence and take both the Theory and Practical part of the driving test again.

You will not be disqualified from driving.

timskipper

1,306 posts

297 months

Thursday 3rd January 2008
quotequote all
PottyMouth said:
Two 3-point offences within 2 years of the test pass mean the licence is revoked by the DVLA; to all intents and purposes it is thrown in the bin.

You have to re-apply for a provisional licence and take both the Theory and Practical part of the driving test again.

You will not be disqualified from driving.
But surely he will not be able to drive from when he is convicted to until he has a new provisional licence in his possession, and then only when accompanied until he's passed his test again. Which really amounts to the same thing as disqualified.