Should I report these motorists to the police?
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Last Monday I drove a 100 mile journey using the M40, M42 and M6 motorways. I drove at a GPS indicated 70mph. I'd estimate that I was overtaken by at least 95% of cars. It was madness. Although nobody died in my immediate vicinity(ok, so some of the people I overtook looked like they were on the brink), I still feel compelled to report this mass law breaking. Where should I start? My local police station maybe?
Kawasicki said:
Last Monday I drove a 100 mile journey using the M40, M42 and M6 motorways. I drove at a GPS indicated 70mph. I'd estimate that I was overtaken by at least 95% of cars. It was madness. Although nobody died in my immediate vicinity(ok, so some of the people I overtook looked like they were on the brink), I still feel compelled to report this mass law breaking. Where should I start? My local police station maybe?
Are you serious, get a life chap. Motorways are for making progress on not nodding off.Boosted.
t or troll - can't decide...Kawasicki said:
Last Monday I drove a 100 mile journey using the M40, M42 and M6 motorways. I drove at a GPS indicated 70mph.
That's far too fast. You should have stuck to 10mph. Much safer. You'd probably even have ended up with a police escort, and maybe a free life membership to Brake 
Dave
TAKE A CHILL PILL PEOPLE!!!! IT'S A JOKE!!!You won't, because like many people who come and rant at the police about someone else's behaviour, it will require you to stump up evidence in a written statement and support what you have seen by spending some of your time at court, being accused by a defence lawyer as being a lier and being prepared to be called back over and over again when adjournments are made.
Most people think they can just wag up, pass a verbal description and let the police do the rest. Life aint like that.
When you tell people that, all of a sudden they decide that the incident really wasn't that bad after all and perhaps the police could just go round and have a quiet word!
Most people think they can just wag up, pass a verbal description and let the police do the rest. Life aint like that.
When you tell people that, all of a sudden they decide that the incident really wasn't that bad after all and perhaps the police could just go round and have a quiet word!
Mg6b said:
You won't, because like many people who come and rant at the police about someone else's behaviour, it will require you to stump up evidence in a written statement and support what you have seen by spending some of your time at court, being accused by a defence lawyer as being a lier and being prepared to be called back over and over again when adjournments are made.
Most people think they can just wag up, pass a verbal description and let the police do the rest. Life aint like that.
When you tell people that, all of a sudden they decide that the incident really wasn't that bad after all and perhaps the police could just go round and have a quiet word!
Thats partly true and people would go through all that effort if they thought the end result would be worth it. These days IT ISN'T.Most people think they can just wag up, pass a verbal description and let the police do the rest. Life aint like that.
When you tell people that, all of a sudden they decide that the incident really wasn't that bad after all and perhaps the police could just go round and have a quiet word!
I've been there with adjournments and cases dropped myself. all time off work for zilch and the punishment if it even gets that far not even worth bothering with.
However your story isn't entirely true.
Let them use crimestoppers anonymously instead and save all the court hassle for themselves.
Seemed to work for someone else lately who made an allegation against me without any evidence.
Funny though you only have to mention certain subjects now like racism and the police will be there in a flash arresting innocents without any need for statements or court appearances.
Strange that how when joe public needs police help they have to jump through akward hoops but when it suits themselves(or targets) misteriously the need for hoops seems to dissapear...
Edited by mark69sheer on Saturday 5th January 12:23
grand klan master mark69sheer said:
Thats partly true and people would go through all that effort if they thought the end result would be worth it. These days IT ISN'T.
I've been there with adjournments and cases dropped myself. all time off work for zilch and the punishment if it even gets that far not even worth bothering with.
However your story isn't entirely true.
Let them use crimestoppers anonymously instead and save all the court hassle for themselves.
Seemed to work for someone else lately who made an allegation against me without any evidence.
Funny though you only have to mention certain subjects now like racism and the police will be there in a flash arresting innocents without any need for statements or court appearances.
Strange that how when joe public needs police help they have to jump through akward hoops but when it suits themselves(or targets) misteriously the need for hoops seems to dissapear...
Errrm, doesn't the arrest come before the court apperance?I've been there with adjournments and cases dropped myself. all time off work for zilch and the punishment if it even gets that far not even worth bothering with.
However your story isn't entirely true.
Let them use crimestoppers anonymously instead and save all the court hassle for themselves.
Seemed to work for someone else lately who made an allegation against me without any evidence.
Funny though you only have to mention certain subjects now like racism and the police will be there in a flash arresting innocents without any need for statements or court appearances.
Strange that how when joe public needs police help they have to jump through akward hoops but when it suits themselves(or targets) misteriously the need for hoops seems to dissapear...
Edited by mark69sheer on Saturday 5th January 12:23
mark69sheer said:
Thats partly true and people would go through all that effort if they thought the end result would be worth it.
My point is that when it requires effort to stand up and contribute, the vast majority cannot find the moral fibre to go through with it because it means they will have to put themselves out in some way or other!Comments such as "Ah well, I didn't realise I would have to sign something, can't you have a quiet word then?" are all too common.
No. Quiet words without evidence are not going to be accepted by the person who is accused of a misdemeanour.
Mark, if the police came around to you and said they wanted a quiet word about your behaviour on a particular date and road, would you like to have some evidence to rebut rather than just a comment from another motorist who's opinion at the time of the incident (which you may or may not remember or even know about) may not be the same as yours?
Mark69sheer said:
These days IT ISN'T.
I've been there with adjournments and cases dropped myself. all time off work for zilch and the punishment if it even gets that far not even worth bothering with.
Then you are truly unusual if you have followed through incidents that have happened regarding minor traffic infringements such as careless driving allegations all the way to court. Unless of course you have been inconvenienced by damage after a collision and that is why the case has been brought to court in the first place.I've been there with adjournments and cases dropped myself. all time off work for zilch and the punishment if it even gets that far not even worth bothering with.
Mark69sheer said:
However your story isn't entirely true.
No. Once in my career, someone who complained to me about a dangerous driving episode that did not lead to a collision felt so strongly about it, that he did see it through to court. In 27 years, he was the only one!Mark69sheer said:
Let them use crimestoppers anonymously instead and save all the court hassle for themselves.
Courts require evidence to convict. Not information which is what crimestoppers is about. Reporting an act of careless driving or motoring offence on crimestoppers will achieve nothing. Crime stoppers is for those people who are like 9 mile snipers. Real citizens stand up to be counted by coming forward and stumping up the evidence
They don't want to take responsibility and get involved. When they pass the information, sadly they are involved but just divorce the responsibility to see it through.Mark69sheer said:
Seemed to work for someone else lately who made an allegation against me without any evidence.
Then you are truly are unlucky!Mark69sheer said:
Funny though you only have to mention certain subjects now like racism and the police will be there in a flash arresting innocents without any need for statements or court appearances.
That is because racist incidents and domestic violence have a high priority set by the home office. The police have no choice but to attend them within the set time guidelines because they are measured on their attendance and are assessed on that for funding.Mark69sheer said:
Strange that how when joe public needs police help they have to jump through akward hoops but when it suits themselves(or targets) misteriously the need for hoops seems to dissapear...
Supply and demand is the problem. Your problem may be small but important for you. With resources being cut back to save public money year on year, it will only get worse unless you happen to have a problem that falls within the criteria the Home Office have set as a priority for attendance and investigation. If it is out of those guidelines, its is 'as and when' someone is available to deal with it. They may take some time.Edited by Mg6b on Saturday 5th January 13:20
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