CPS finds 25000 cases too much agro

[paranha]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/new...

When do the population decide that the Govt is no longer fit for purpose?.

Edited by paranha on Sunday 6th January 12:36

Edited by paranha on Sunday 6th January 12:38

[i want an aero]

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[mrmr96]

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[Bing o]

Funny, it was in the public interest for them to prosecute me for doing 76 mph on a clear wide open stretch of 50mph DC....but not stamping on a man's head? I really must learn to get my kicks in different ways in future.

[Jasandjules]

paranha said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/new...

When do the population decide that the Govt is no longer fit for purpose?.

I decided that sometime in 1997, just waiting for more people to join me and tick a different box on the fecking election form.

[Hooli]

doesnt surprise me at all. years ago my mg was vandalised to the tune of about £3k body damage. crims was tailed by various people across the road, into a pub, pointed out to bouncers who kept track, handed to plod when plod arrived. result of it? no charges as not in the public interest.

its boocks & the CPS need a huge kick up the arse.

[Puddenchucker]

Says it all, really:

Stopping trials in the "public interest" still counts as an offence "brought to justice", helping courts hit Government targets.

[Bing o]

Hooli said:

doesnt surprise me at all. years ago my mg was vandalised to the tune of about £3k body damage. crims was tailed by various people across the road, into a pub, pointed out to bouncers who kept track, handed to plod when plod arrived. result of it? no charges as not in the public interest.

its boocks & the CPS need a huge kick up the arse.

Just imagine if you'd been caught at 35 in a 30, now that would be in the public interest (the public being Brake of course)

[streaky]

They need to keep the Courts (and jails) free for motorists and people who refuse to pay their Council Tax (as it provides a continually reducing service (unless you belong to sections of the community oft characterised as 'spongers') - Streaky

[FishFace]

More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".

Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.

[Bing o]

FishFace said:

More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".

Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.

In the case of thugs, one case is too many.

However, it appears that it is far more than one...

[andmole]

FishFace said:

More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".

Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.

Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be quite so overloaded if they didn't spend quite so much time persecuting motorists who decide that they want to be treated fairly by the justice system, rather than being shafted into accepting the results produced by equipment that cannot be trusted.

[MiniMac]

andmole said:

FishFace said:

More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".

Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.

Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be quite so overloaded if they didn't spend quite so much time persecuting motorists who decide that they want to be treated fairly by the justice system, rather than being shafted into accepting the results produced by equipment that cannot be trusted.

[FishFace]

andmole said:

FishFace said:

More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".

Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.

Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be quite so overloaded if they didn't spend quite so much time persecuting motorists who decide that they want to be treated fairly by the justice system, rather than being shafted into accepting the results produced by equipment that cannot be trusted.

Would be a nice sentiment if it were true. How much actual time do you think is spent at Court for speeding / minor road traffic offences? Very very little. Visit your local Magistrates' and have a look at the offences for the cases over the last month. Nearly all will be to do with crime.

It wouldn't surprise me if less go to Court now than pre-1980.

I assume you're not including offences like no insurance, driving otherwise in accordance with license, due care and attention and dangerous here.

[barbalar]

I think the main problem with the CPS is that they have a bunch of buffoons running it and in other positions of responsibility.

You'd be hard pressed to find a average rank and file copper with a good word to say about them. Sure, some good prosecutors do slip through the net but too many bad ones get in as well.

And as for traffic cases being a lot of their casework, that may be so, but in my experience, the last time I was at court for a traffic job was back in 2005-ish.

I've always been a fan of a quiet word in the ear rather than going straight to the ticket option.

[moparmick]

Under labour, crimes have become missdemeanours and missdemeanours have become crimes.

[streaky]

barbalar said:

I think the main problem with the CPS is that they have a bunch of buffoons running it and in other positions of responsibility.

You'd be hard pressed to find a average rank and file copper with a good word to say about them. Sure, some good prosecutors do slip through the net but too many bad ones get in as well.

And as for traffic cases being a lot of their casework, that may be so, but in my experience, the last time I was at court for a traffic job was back in 2005-ish.

I've always been a fan of a quiet word in the ear rather than going straight to the ticket option.

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We need more BiB like you - Streaky

[justamin]

FishFace said:

andmole said:

FishFace said:

More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".

Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.

Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be quite so overloaded if they didn't spend quite so much time persecuting motorists who decide that they want to be treated fairly by the justice system, rather than being shafted into accepting the results produced by equipment that cannot be trusted.

Would be a nice sentiment if it were true. How much actual time do you think is spent at Court for speeding / minor road traffic offences? Very very little. Visit your local Magistrates' and have a look at the offences for the cases over the last month. Nearly all will be to do with crime.

It wouldn't surprise me if less go to Court now than pre-1980.

I assume you're not including offences like no insurance, driving otherwise in accordance with license, due care and attention and dangerous here.

Lets use my case as an example.....I've appeared at the Kings Lynn magistrates courts 50 miles away 5 times; the Norwich Crown courts twice; the barristers have been to the Crown Court 3 times and I have STILL yet to have a fair trial for an alleged speeding offence from April 2006! The next court date is now 29th Feb and the CPS have tried every trick in the book to make sure that they don't lose this case, and yet when it comes to trial the evidence will (once again) prove that there is MORE than reasonable doubt about the offence occurring.

So.....who's wasting who's time and money, I wonder??

[barbalar]

I think the over-riding question is whether or not we have a justice system that is fit for purpose.

When I studied Law, pretty much one of the first things we were told is that Justice must be for the people and run by the people as well as accessible by all.

Unfortunately, the perception is that it hits none of those things, either due to bureaucratic incompentence or other systematic failings.

I don't see things getting any better anytime soon and unless there is a huge overhaul of the way CPS and indeed we, as police, undertake prosecutions, I think we'll be stuck with the huge stagnant mess for some time.

[DucatiGary]

FishFace said:

How much actual time do you think is spent at Court for speeding / minor road traffic offences? Very very little. Visit your local Magistrates' and have a look at the offences for the cases over the last month. Nearly all will be to do with crime.

It wouldn't surprise me if less go to Court now than pre-1980.

surely your bright enough to see the obvious here?

and just becuase most people dont fight the victimless crimes they have commited by swaying 5 mph over the limit, thus clogging up the courts, doesnt mean its a moral and right thing to be labelled a criminal when muggers, shoplifters and thieves are getting off scot free.

I agree with the other statement that things are going to be a big mess soon, and blinkered posts showing the mentality above confirm this.