RE: 50mph Limit Rejected
RE: 50mph Limit Rejected
Tuesday 8th January 2008

50mph Limit Rejected

Lincolnshire says no to speed limit reduction


Will other counties reject the guildelines?
Will other counties reject the guildelines?
Government guidelines to lower speed limits to 50mph have been rejected in Lincolnshire, it has been reported.

The county is understood to have stood up to the Government over plans to lower limits on C-class roads to 50mph even where there is a low or non-existent accident record.

Highways officers and councillors from Lincolnshire County Council rejected a new Government policy which would cut speed limits on thousands of miles of the county's roads, reported the Lincolnshire Echo.

The council is now reviewing all limits on A and B roads.

At a meeting of the highways policy development group yesterday, the council's assistant director for highways and traffic, Paul Coathup, said he could not support the policy in relation to C and unclassified roads.

‘You'd be going out into the Wolds and putting posts down everywhere telling people they cannot drive more than 50mph when they cannot drive more than 35 or 40mph anyway. If they went any faster they would come off the road,’ he said.

However it is feared the Government may still force Lincolnshireto drop limits on all rural roads from 60mph to 50mph.

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Raging Demon

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268 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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quick, pinch me! and why are the gov'ment such complete and utter b*st*rds still trying to push ahead with speed reductions when they are not needed, I'm all for reductions near schools and residential areas but out in the sticks and motorways! FFS! I want to go as fast as possible, I think a banged up nova doing a 100mph and a supercar doing a 100mph are worlds apart and the same laws should not apply to them both how about havng a system where a cars engine size/power output determine which lanes it can travel in or how fast in can go, this way we can keep all the sh*tters in the left lane and people who have worked their butts off for performance/supercars can enjoy them without having to trail behind someone doing 65mph in a tinted out saxo in the right lane.
rage


Edited by Raging Demon on Tuesday 8th January 11:08


Edited by Raging Demon on Tuesday 8th January 11:09

cowellsj

681 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Raging Demon said:
quick, pinch me!
don't think it you who's dreaming...

someone's in lala land tho.

E38

737 posts

244 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Who put a sane person in a position of power? Have them shot immediately.

But for all that local govts sense, it will learn that the real government always gets what it wants, so they may as well have just lowered the limits anyway...

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

278 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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I couldn't care less anyway. If they introduce this stupid limit most people will do exactly what I intend to do; drive according to the road conditions.

Screw the Govt. I've got to the point now where I really couldn't care less about abiding by the law. I make my own sensible rules and stick to them. If sometimes these rules diverge from what the power hungry fascists in Vestminster decide I must do, then tough!

FWIW, my 85 year old step father is of the same opinion. He was brought up to respect the law but now realises that the law has little respect for him so whats the point? Indeed, what was the point of him wasting five years of his life fighting Hitler to be saddled with these control freaks?

RDE

5,037 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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A commendable bit of sense from that council clap

Shame it looks like their opinion will be discarded as quickly as that of the general public's. After all, Lincoln is just like London, isn't it?

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

272 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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All those sign posts, and all those sign posts to make sure are clear from vegetation etc, to be viewed at all times to make the limit enforceable.

So not very green producing millions of signs and fitting them at huge cost, a total and utter mess and eyesore, and unenforceable anyway, along with being generally pointless.


They did this recently near my work. A national reduced to a 40mph zone for no reason at all as far as I can see, bar a few fatal accidents at junctions that are near, but not associated with the road.

Now the nice common land has six solid posts stuck up (the only signs around) with 40 lollipops ontop. It looks stupid, no one obeys it, and it's now more dangerous if you leave the road as there are metal posts rather than open grass land.


Nice to see a council displaying common sense, and no surprise to see a central government with no idea pushing through policy when they have NO idea about how the policy may not be suitable for everyone.

Gordon Brown, you want money for NHS screenings, well save some money on ing signs and spend it there then you fat ugly !

Dave

Raging Demon

Original Poster:

268 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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what if ze germans had invaded us in the war would it really be that bad? me thinks the only difference would have been ze germans would have stuck autobahns here as well. kerching!

lockup

383 posts

273 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Up until recently I've sort of considered the, "Drive to the prevailing conditions, not the speed limit" argument to be pretty good and have driven accordingly. There has been a doubt at the back of my mind that maybe I like it because I'm a unreconstructed child killing speed freak and would just love it to be true.

However, when my wife's NY resolution was to, "Stick to the speed limit" I saw the consequences of Speed Kills message at first hand!

On a drive down to Brighton she concentrated really hard on keeping to the limit. She was always glancing at the speedo. Ironically, she often missed a change in limit because she was looking at the speedo and not the signs! I occasionally said things like, "It's a 30 now," but mostly kept an eye out for potential hazards, as if she wasn't noticing the signs God knows what else was passing her by smile


sprinter885

11,550 posts

258 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Ah-how nice to live in Lincolnshire !
Small, but significant step I believe..thumbup

Mr_Yogi

3,288 posts

286 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Andy Zarse said:
I couldn't care less anyway. If they introduce this stupid limit most people will do exactly what I intend to do; drive according to the road conditions.
Unfortunately most road users have no idea about driving to the conditions and just stick to 10mph below the speed limit rolleyes

So if you can't overtake you're stuffed!

However I'm sure many people actually think the national speed limit is 50mph anyway, so I doubt this will make any difference wink

Ethro

6 posts

228 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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wow, about the only sensible thing our council has done in years...

RDE

5,037 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Mr_Yogi said:
However I'm sure many people actually think the national speed limit is 50mph anyway, so I doubt this will make any difference wink
I've heard two different 'stories' about non-traffic bobbies who thought the NSL was 50 and stopped people who were doing 60. Must have been embarassing when they were asked to radio in to double check.

Whether they were true or not is of course debatable.

Mr_C

2,508 posts

260 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Derbyshire County Council, please listen to your friends in Lincolnshire...


Neomagic

386 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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This country is so F***ED its unreal, I can't bloody wait for the revelation.

Raging Demon

Original Poster:

268 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Neomagic said:
This country is so F***ED its unreal, I can't bloody wait for the revelation.
revelation? was it predicted in the bible? hehe

Neomagic

386 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Raging Demon said:
Neomagic said:
This country is so F***ED its unreal, I can't bloody wait for the revelation.
revelation? was it predicted in the bible? hehe
Actually a book of the Bible that also includes a description of the end of the world.

Wee bit OTT for this topic though eh.

Raging Demon

Original Poster:

268 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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Neomagic said:
Raging Demon said:
Neomagic said:
This country is so F***ED its unreal, I can't bloody wait for the revelation.
revelation? was it predicted in the bible? hehe
Actually a book of the Bible that also includes a description of the end of the world.

Wee bit OTT for this topic though eh.
ahhh END DAYS...are they here then?

AL666

2,679 posts

249 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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  • proud to be a Lincolnshirian*

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

287 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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I think there is sufficient ammo for the gov't to overturn this resistance. Which county was it that had to announce an increase in KSIs in 2007? Yes, Lincolnshire. I'm sure there's no connection, but I'm also sure one can be manufactured.

Also notice that the resistance wasn't on principle. It was simply the job of installing and maintaining all the signs.

Edited by Peter Ward on Tuesday 8th January 12:38

neh321

378 posts

253 months

Tuesday 8th January 2008
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RDE said:
Mr_Yogi said:
However I'm sure many people actually think the national speed limit is 50mph anyway, so I doubt this will make any difference wink
I've heard two different 'stories' about non-traffic bobbies who thought the NSL was 50 and stopped people who were doing 60. Must have been embarassing when they were asked to radio in to double check.

Whether they were true or not is of course debatable.
I was arguing with a bloke at my office who insisted the speed limit on non-motorway dual carriageways is 60 mph, and nothing I could say would convince him otherwise. So I suggested he ring the local Police Traffic Dept and ask them, so he did. And guess what they told him? "It's 60 mph, sir".....