Numbers on your car doors?
Numbers on your car doors?
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TheStoat

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1,498 posts

252 months

Friday 18th January 2008
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Hi guys. I had a bit of a search and didn't turn up anything so what's the verdict - are race style numbers on your car doors illegal? I'm not into road racing or going on track but I am looking to dress the car in a few stickers for Le Mans. Couldn't find anything here or on the DVLA site. Anyone know the score?

Cheers for any help,

Andy

bleesh

1,112 posts

285 months

Friday 18th January 2008
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I don't think it's illegal.....BUT if you have the numbers there could be a thought from plod that you are involved in a race, and this may cause you problems, as we all know racing on the public roads is a no-no.

However you can get round this, I think, by "crossing out" the numbers, for example, with black tape in an X shape across the number.
This is why you sometimes see "proper" rally cars with their numbers x'd out when they are on public roads - this indicates that they are not actually involved in a race at that time.....

I think smile

Steve

Captain Volvo

204 posts

230 months

Friday 18th January 2008
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I've no idea to the proper, legal response to your question but I can't think of any reason why numbers would be illegal or even frowned on (other than from a taste/style point of view). I intend to do just the same as you for LeMans this year.

I seem to think that there are some rallye or special edition cars that come from the factory with numbers on (anyone seen a "Herbie" beetle?)

Piglet

6,250 posts

286 months

Friday 18th January 2008
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If you are an MSA licence holder their rules require you to cross out the number (or remove it) whilst using the car on the road outside of an MSA permitted event.

Brett928S2

1,504 posts

246 months

Friday 18th January 2008
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Hi smile

Sometimes when returning from racing, I have white numbers on my side and rear glass (until I get home and clean them off - white marker pen etc)

Never been stopped and I remember at least once a Police Traffic car was following me for a few miles...

All the best Brett smile

flemke

23,515 posts

268 months

Friday 18th January 2008
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Illegal in Germany; not sure about France.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Friday 18th January 2008
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Dire bad taste, unless part of a comedy theme....

But I can't bring one to mind...

TheStoat

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1,498 posts

252 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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mybrainhurts said:
Dire bad taste, unless part of a comedy theme....

But I can't bring one to mind...
rolleyes



Anyway... thanks for all the other replies people. It seems the numbers will be fine down to Dover unless I'm officially a member of certain racing bodies. Off to find out what the law is in France now for that little bit between Calais and Le Mans!

Cheers again,

Andy

blueyes

4,799 posts

283 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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For the total WGCE look, don't forget your 3 layer nomex, driving boots, gloves and an Arai.


wink

TheStoat

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1,498 posts

252 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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blueyes said:
For the total WGCE look, don't forget your 3 layer nomex, driving boots, gloves and an Arai.


wink
In a Cobra replica? I'd have thought flying helmet, pipe and handlebar moustache would have been more in keeping! wink


ETA - What's WGCE? Tried Googling it and got links to poker organisations?

Edited by TheStoat on Saturday 19th January 10:37

Davevx220

432 posts

275 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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All those VW's with 53 on them seem to get away with it.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

279 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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Davevx220 said:
All those VW's with 53 on them seem to get away with it.
Yeah, but they can use the 'I'm Spartacus' defence.

blueyes

4,799 posts

283 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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TheStoat said:
blueyes said:
For the total WGCE look, don't forget your 3 layer nomex, driving boots, gloves and an Arai.


wink
In a Cobra replica? I'd have thought flying helmet, pipe and handlebar moustache would have been more in keeping! wink


ETA - What's WGCE? Tried Googling it and got links to poker organisations?

Edited by TheStoat on Saturday 19th January 10:37
Weapons Grade Cock End.

After hearing that you want to put numbers on a twintownsmodeon: "a feckin AC Cobra" twintownsmodeoff: even if it is a replica, I stand by my decision to use that comment.

On such a beautiful looking and sounding car (if it's a V8)... you don't need to add numbers... it would just be case of trying too hard.

Just rev the fecker and drive it like it's stolen! smile

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

255 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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MSA rules state that competition numbers must be REMOVED, or COMPLETELY COVERED if driving your competition vehicle to or from the event, crossing out is not sufficient.

But I agree, a non-competition vehicle that is not a white Series 2 pxy Beetle bedecked with red/blue stripes and 53 on it's roundels, must be WGCE material of the highest order.

Unless it's a transit van from a certain construction company that numbers them all, then you can be let off.

Or it's the tow van for your race vehicle, and you have a vinyl image of your car on the side for PR/Image(posing) purposes. Then you're allowed.


andmole

1,594 posts

242 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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Piglet said:
If you are an MSA licence holder their rules require you to cross out the number (or remove it) whilst using the car on the road outside of an MSA permitted event.
That's exactly what I used to do, put a cross through the numbers with black tape.

TheStoat

Original Poster:

1,498 posts

252 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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Wow. Weapons grade cock end. I ask a simple question about decorating a car for a racing weekend and that's the response. Amazing. Yeah, I think I'll go post somewhere else now. Thanks again to all the people who responded with useful information, it was genuinely appreciated.

cptsideways

13,895 posts

283 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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No law against it, it just an MSA thing with a bit of internet story folklore added in.

My Soarer has been driven to & from events for the past two years from one end of the UK to the other, with its championship numbers on & full sponsorship livery etc, never been tugged except for a missing plate - ooops

If its a proper competition car no-one appears to mind otherwise....... he says ^^^

Mine as per last year, never tugged & some 12k miles on the road to & from events biggrin




Edited by cptsideways on Sunday 20th January 23:08

Harsh

4,551 posts

242 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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I remember a time not so long ago when PH was a good place for people to ask questions, have discussions about motoring matters.

it appears that time has now passed and it has now become a place where insults are flung by keyboard warriors.

take a look at yourselves guys it's a sad place to be when you call a complete stranger a WGCE or similar simply because you disagree with his thoughts.

perhaps its worth wondering whether you would do so face to face with someone you didnt know?

try and have a little respect for the rest of the human race.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Harsh said:
I remember a time not so long ago when PH was a good place for people to ask questions, have discussions about motoring matters.

it appears that time has now passed and it has now become a place where insults are flung by keyboard warriors.

take a look at yourselves guys it's a sad place to be when you call a complete stranger a WGCE or similar simply because you disagree with his thoughts.

perhaps its worth wondering whether you would do so face to face with someone you didnt know?

try and have a little respect for the rest of the human race.
Bad taste is bad taste. I'm sure the advice was offered in order to save the guy from the error of his ways, before the real world starts pointing and laughing...

Harsh

4,551 posts

242 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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mybrainhurts said:
Harsh said:
I remember a time not so long ago when PH was a good place for people to ask questions, have discussions about motoring matters.

it appears that time has now passed and it has now become a place where insults are flung by keyboard warriors.

take a look at yourselves guys it's a sad place to be when you call a complete stranger a WGCE or similar simply because you disagree with his thoughts.

perhaps its worth wondering whether you would do so face to face with someone you didnt know?

try and have a little respect for the rest of the human race.
Bad taste is bad taste. I'm sure the advice was offered in order to save the guy from the error of his ways, before the real world starts pointing and laughing...
i would suggest there is a difference between advice and insults.

bearing in mind he has mentioned that it was for Le mans weekend..where a lot of people 'dress' their cars, was the WGCE comment constructive advice?