Response to a "private" parking ticket.
Response to a "private" parking ticket.
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Puggit

49,832 posts

279 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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That'll do nicely thumbup

Don't forget to sign it wink

Scraggles

7,619 posts

255 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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From some other site

"A spokesman for Lancashire Police said: "Failure to pay a fixed penalty notice will lead to a prosecution in a court of law.

"Failure to pay a civil penalty notice could lead to the company taking the driver to the civil courts.

"It would be highly inadvisable to avoid paying a civil penalty notice."

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Why bother replying at all?


esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Scraggles said:
From some other site

"A spokesman for Lancashire Police said: "Failure to pay a fixed penalty notice will lead to a prosecution in a court of law.

"Failure to pay a civil penalty notice could lead to the company taking the driver to the civil courts.

"It would be highly inadvisable to avoid paying a civil penalty notice."
Ask them how they i.d. the driver.......

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Scraggles said:
"A spokesman for Lancashire Police said: "Failure to pay a fixed penalty notice will lead to a prosecution in a court of law.
What has a private parking invoice got to do with the police ?

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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esselte said:
Ask them how they i.d. the driver.......
Don't bother sending any reply at all.

Actually, unless you want to write and ask them to confirm under what law a "Prosecution" would occur, as that sounds rather like impersonating the police to me.....biggrin

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Jasandjules said:
esselte said:
Ask them how they i.d. the driver.......
Don't bother sending any reply at all.

Actually, unless you want to write and ask them to confirm under what law a "Prosecution" would occur, as that sounds rather like impersonating the police to me.....biggrin
AIUI Scraggles' post was quoting the BiB from another web site.....

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Jasandjules said:
esselte said:
Ask them how they i.d. the driver.......
Don't bother sending any reply at all.
Only because they will probably ignore the 'crease and desist' part and another letter will arrive, to which a more robust line could be taken - Streaky

Chrisgr31

14,296 posts

286 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Hang on a while. Read the thread on General Gassing, in which I think the last post was on Friday. You'll find Parkforce mentioned in that thread. SA client of theirs was emailing them to ask them what their response would be when they got the letter you are suggesting!

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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supermono

7,464 posts

279 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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PottyMouth said:
I request that you provide details of the drivers identity in order to support this allegation.
You need to say "Drivers identities" or "Driver's identity" to avoid confusion.

SM

julian64

14,325 posts

285 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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DVD you link seems to describe the situation whereby a driver enters a contract with a parking company and then breaks it.

In my case the people parking are not allowed to be parking there. In other words there is no contract because no one has given them permission to park.

Bit like a company with a handfull of spaces for loading goods which are then used, not by patrons but just joe public wanting a free space for a shopping trip.

The parkforce company is penalising people who do not have permission to park and therefore I have not entered a contract with so none of your link actually applies to me?

Chrisgr31

14,296 posts

286 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Chrisgr31 said:
Hang on a while. Read the thread on General Gassing, in which I think the last post was on Friday. You'll find Parkforce mentioned in that thread. SA client of theirs was emailing them to ask them what their response would be when they got the letter you are suggesting!
The other thread on this subject is to be found at http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

291 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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julian64 said:
DVD you link seems to describe the situation whereby a driver enters a contract with a parking company and then breaks it.

In my case the people parking are not allowed to be parking there. In other words there is no contract because no one has given them permission to park.

Bit like a company with a handfull of spaces for loading goods which are then used, not by patrons but just joe public wanting a free space for a shopping trip.

The parkforce company is penalising people who do not have permission to park and therefore I have not entered a contract with so none of your link actually applies to me?
I'm not sure but imo the important issue is not to provide driver's details to any private parking company issuing tickets. Without knowing the driver they're stuffed.

julian64

14,325 posts

285 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Well absolutely, but as in the other thread in the joy to run round and stick two metophorical thumbs up in the air to parking attendants you have to take into consideration the reason they are there in the first place. I'm not in favour of over zeleaous parking fines, but there are some times these things are needed and in the posters hurry to nulify the use of a ticket you may want to consider this will just cause immediate clamping and towing.

Now interestingly if you walked into a impound yard and said, Oh I want my car back and I'm not paying you a farthing cos I wasn't the guy driving the car at the time it was parked and therefore your contract wasn't with me. Do you think they would just give you the keys and appologise or would you think as the regitered keeper of the car you would have some responsibility regarding the way the car had been used even if you weren't the driver.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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J said
In my case the people parking are not allowed to be parking there. In other words there is no contract because no one has given them permission to park.

In which case if they are putting a charge on you then are they claiming damages?. Again I would submit it will be between the Driver who parked there and the owner. They will have to ID the driver and as Reg Keepr you have no obligfation at law to name that person in such a case.

dvd

julian64

14,325 posts

285 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Dwight VanDriver said:
J said
In my case the people parking are not allowed to be parking there. In other words there is no contract because no one has given them permission to park.

In which case if they are putting a charge on you then are they claiming damages?. Again I would submit it will be between the Driver who parked there and the owner. They will have to ID the driver and as Reg Keepr you have no obligfation at law to name that person in such a case.

dvd
Could you propose an answer to the second paragraph? What would happen in the case of the car now at the impound lot when driver comes to claim car but denies being the person who parked it illegally?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Presumably one would have to pay and then take civil action to reclaim fees?

dvd

julian64

14,325 posts

285 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Presumably one would have to pay and then take civil action to reclaim fees?

dvd
And what would you rate their chances of success.

I feel you are a lot less verbose than normal smile, or I am flogging a dead horse?

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Chrisgr31 said:
Chrisgr31 said:
Hang on a while. Read the thread on General Gassing, in which I think the last post was on Friday. You'll find Parkforce mentioned in that thread. SA client of theirs was emailing them to ask them what their response would be when they got the letter you are suggesting!
The other thread on this subject is to be found at http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
The thread with my original draft letter is here - Streaky