Police Officer gets off with using mobile while driving...
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...but only becaase I was ringing in on 999 about the driver in front of me, who I thought was drunk.
I was on my way back from the shops, and saw a youngish guy, no seat belt, swerving all over the road, cutting people up, well over 30 (around 60) near a primary school at chucking out time. After a mile or so, I was sure he was drunk, so I called it in.
You'll be pleased to know that I got exactly the same level of interest from the call taker as if I had been "just" a member of the public. I had to suggest to them it might be useful to have a description of the driver...
...and I also had to suggest staying (safely) with the vehicle until the cops got there. The driver turned out not to be drunk, but he did get words of advice on his piss poor driving.
I realise me being bothered enough to ring this in, and stay with the car, some 6 or 7 miles out of my way, while off duty, may upset the BiB bashers on here, but sometimes, I just can't help myself. I know it would be so much easier if I would just conform to the "lazy, uninterested BiB" stereotype...
I was on my way back from the shops, and saw a youngish guy, no seat belt, swerving all over the road, cutting people up, well over 30 (around 60) near a primary school at chucking out time. After a mile or so, I was sure he was drunk, so I called it in.
You'll be pleased to know that I got exactly the same level of interest from the call taker as if I had been "just" a member of the public. I had to suggest to them it might be useful to have a description of the driver...
...and I also had to suggest staying (safely) with the vehicle until the cops got there. The driver turned out not to be drunk, but he did get words of advice on his piss poor driving.
I realise me being bothered enough to ring this in, and stay with the car, some 6 or 7 miles out of my way, while off duty, may upset the BiB bashers on here, but sometimes, I just can't help myself. I know it would be so much easier if I would just conform to the "lazy, uninterested BiB" stereotype...
SirSimon said:
Well done Dibble! Mummy will be proud!
The main point I was making that I and the majority of the "front line" BiB (on here and elsewhere) are still trying to do our bit, even when the Government is screwing us over.It was published on our intranet this week that the Police staff (ie non constables, so including PCSOs) are getting a pay award this year of 2.5%... backdated to the 1 September 2007.
Now THAT makes me feel a valued member of the workforce.
Boosted LS1 said:
Afaik you're allowed to use a hand held to report an emergency or crime in progress. Isn't it one of the excemptions? I've used my handheld when I'v witnessed accidents on the motorway and not been asked about my phone.
You're right Boosted - I was just being argumentative and contrary.
Yes, it just seems like a good common sense excemption imo. If I see a problem I'll report it just like you did. Good on you. I certainly wouldn't wait until I got home. Thing is, the laws get rammed down our necks but we never get told about the excemptions. I guess that's for a reason that only the powers that be know about and by that I don't mean bib.
Dibble said:
SirSimon said:
Well done Dibble! Mummy will be proud!
The main point I was making that I and the majority of the "front line" BiB (on here and elsewhere) are still trying to do our bit, even when the Government is screwing us over.It was published on our intranet this week that the Police staff (ie non constables, so including PCSOs) are getting a pay award this year of 2.5%... backdated to the 1 September 2007.
Now THAT makes me feel a valued member of the workforce.
Edited by SirSimon on Tuesday 22 January 19:17
DucatiGary said:
read the title and was going to post "who cares, i bet he wasnt being dangerous"
then read the rest of the post.
it is getting to the point where there are too many little laws that shouldnt be laws though.
and when that happens, most people will give up trying to abide by them all.
what do you think is a law that shouldn't be one then? then read the rest of the post.
it is getting to the point where there are too many little laws that shouldnt be laws though.
and when that happens, most people will give up trying to abide by them all.
Is it the drink driving law?
or the driving whilst having one hand on the wheel and the other holding a phone to you ear, law?
Funky Teapot said:
what do you think is a law that shouldn't be one then?
Is it the drink driving law?
or the driving whilst having one hand on the wheel and the other holding a phone to you ear, law?
id like to see a law that says police womens disposable other halves shouldnt go on the internet thinking they are judge dread.Is it the drink driving law?
or the driving whilst having one hand on the wheel and the other holding a phone to you ear, law?
i think at least that way you wont end up looking like a complete t
t and as such make readers here think "people attrackt like minded people" as in, your a cock, the missus must be one too, why are we employing cocks in the police force?
Dibble said:
You'll be pleased to know that I got exactly the same level of interest from the call taker as if I had been "just" a member of the public. I had to suggest to them it might be useful to have a description of the driver...
...and I also had to suggest staying (safely) with the vehicle until the cops got there. The driver turned out not to be drunk, but he did get words of advice on his piss poor driving.
Fair play to you mate, I don't think many of the officers on here are thought of as anything less than excellent, after all, you post on here to help people out, and clarify issues which quite frankly your bosses not only ought to condone but pay bonuses for....and I also had to suggest staying (safely) with the vehicle until the cops got there. The driver turned out not to be drunk, but he did get words of advice on his piss poor driving.
But, Devils Advocate mode ON - if you had to suggest those things to a civvy operator, that kinda makes me concerned that any other MoP wouldn't do these things and the driver would have gotten away (especially if he'd been drunk). DA Mode OFF.
And Jackie Smith ought to be ashamed of herself, I'm really amazed that serving officers actually turn up to work at all at the moment, I know how p***ed I'd be if PCSO's got the rise I was promised. You can't strike, but if you all got really ill at the same time...........
DucatiGary said:
Funky Teapot said:
what do you think is a law that shouldn't be one then?
Is it the drink driving law?
or the driving whilst having one hand on the wheel and the other holding a phone to you ear, law?
id like to see a law that says police womens disposable other halves shouldnt go on the internet thinking they are judge dread.Is it the drink driving law?
or the driving whilst having one hand on the wheel and the other holding a phone to you ear, law?
i think at least that way you wont end up looking like a complete t
t and as such make readers here think "people attrackt like minded people" as in, your a cock, the missus must be one too, why are we employing cocks in the police force?
Boosted LS1 said:
Afaik you're allowed to use a hand held to report an emergency or crime in progress. Isn't it one of the excemptions? I've used my handheld when I'v witnessed accidents on the motorway and not been asked about my phone.
They know your number when you call anyway, done it a couple of times, last one was for the Fire Brigade, as they passed the call on, they told them my number. I am not sure you can block phone numbers like land lines?Dibble, those of us who've been around these parts for a few years know:
1. you are one of the best BiBs anyone could wish to meet
2. you will always do what's right despite the system's best efforts to put you off
3. you provide huge value when you're here.
And I mean those things. This is not flattery.
So I think we can all be grateful that you took the trouble to address a potentially fatal situation even when you weren't on duty. I hope that you weren't too much delayed, and that the on-duty BiBs were grateful for your dedication. Even if they weren't, we are.
1. you are one of the best BiBs anyone could wish to meet
2. you will always do what's right despite the system's best efforts to put you off
3. you provide huge value when you're here.
And I mean those things. This is not flattery.
So I think we can all be grateful that you took the trouble to address a potentially fatal situation even when you weren't on duty. I hope that you weren't too much delayed, and that the on-duty BiBs were grateful for your dedication. Even if they weren't, we are.
Vipers said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Afaik you're allowed to use a hand held to report an emergency or crime in progress. Isn't it one of the excemptions? I've used my handheld when I'v witnessed accidents on the motorway and not been asked about my phone.
They know your number when you call anyway, done it a couple of times, last one was for the Fire Brigade, as they passed the call on, they told them my number. I am not sure you can block phone numbers like land lines?Dibble said:
Boosted LS1 said:
Afaik you're allowed to use a hand held to report an emergency or crime in progress. Isn't it one of the excemptions? I've used my handheld when I'v witnessed accidents on the motorway and not been asked about my phone.
You're right Boosted - I was just being argumentative and contrary.
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