Is it illegal to ....

[Taita]

Openly discuss and plan a protest that will cause traffic chaos?

Perhaps say..... blockading or just driving through the toll gates for the Mersey Tunnel as the price has gone up A-FECKIN-GAIN?

[Scraggles]

maybe just have a bunch of friends all driving cars and the like that have a habit of breaking down, right in the tunnel, but better to discuss it with friends and not do it online on a public forum

[DucatiGary]

im led to belive you will fall fowl of being able to speak freely and as such new anti terrorist laws will enable "them" to come and kill your first born.

out of interest how much is it now? I always keep a spare £1.20 in the ashtray for such emergencies.

[FishFace]

Taita said:

Openly discuss and plan a protest that will cause traffic chaos?

Perhaps say..... blockading or just driving through the toll gates for the Mersey Tunnel as the price has gone up A-FECKIN-GAIN?

Conspiracies to commit offences, inciting etc.

[Taita]

Its now 1.40 each way.

They cost 35 million a year to run apparently. They were meant to be toll free once the cost of construction was recouped, I believe this happened in the 80s.

I'm OK with paying a small fee to pay for their upkeep, but they wanted to use the profit from the tunnels, to build a tramway to knowsley! Laughable!

[Who me ?]

FishFace said:

Conspiracies to commit offences, inciting etc.

Conspiracy to reduce the rate of motoring taxes - at least 5 years ( or the equivalent fine of money lost )

[flemke]

Timing of this increase is rather ironic.

In Scotland, only yesterday the tolls on the Tay and Forth Bridges were abolished.

[Tycho]

Taita said:

Its now 1.40 each way.

They cost 35 million a year to run apparently. They were meant to be toll free once the cost of construction was recouped, I believe this happened in the 80s.

I'm OK with paying a small fee to pay for their upkeep, but they wanted to use the profit from the tunnels, to build a tramway to knowsley! Laughable!

You'll probably find that it hasn't been paid for yet due to the toll operators syphoning most of the tolls off in the 80's....

[DIW35]

Same thing happened with the Dartford tunnel. That paid for itself years ago, but did they drop the charges as promised? Did they bollox. They're raking in too much to let it all go, so they just keep coming up with pathetic excuses as to why they need to keep charging.

[JustinP1]

Taita said:

Its now 1.40 each way.

They cost 35 million a year to run apparently. They were meant to be toll free once the cost of construction was recouped, I believe this happened in the 80s.

I'm OK with paying a small fee to pay for their upkeep, but they wanted to use the profit from the tunnels, to build a tramway to knowsley! Laughable!

It is economics by friend.

Of course, whilst annoying, the use of the tunnel is still 'worth' more than £1.40 cash is to you - otherwise you wouldnt use it.

Indeed, the cost and hassle of the ferry is a worse option, and driving all the way around past Chester is a good 25 miles at least as well as the time and cost of petrol - £4 at least.


Look at it this way. Without the use of the tunnel, what would your other options be? If the price of the tunnel increased, what would be the tipping point for you not to use it? £4, £5, £6? At £4 it would still be worth your while.

At the moment it is £1.40 - a bargain in comparison.

[AlexE46]

Its not £1.40 until April i think? I drive through 4 times a day, so it would save me a pretty penny if it was free!!

[Yung Man]

It went up to £1.30 in April 2005 and now it's going up this April (2008) by 10p to £1.40.

It's daylight robbery.

[Bibs_LEF]

JustinP1 said:

Taita said:

Its now 1.40 each way.

They cost 35 million a year to run apparently. They were meant to be toll free once the cost of construction was recouped, I believe this happened in the 80s.

I'm OK with paying a small fee to pay for their upkeep, but they wanted to use the profit from the tunnels, to build a tramway to knowsley! Laughable!

It is economics by friend.

Of course, whilst annoying, the use of the tunnel is still 'worth' more than £1.40 cash is to you - otherwise you wouldnt use it.

Indeed, the cost and hassle of the ferry is a worse option, and driving all the way around past Chester is a good 25 miles at least as well as the time and cost of petrol - £4 at least.


Look at it this way. Without the use of the tunnel, what would your other options be? If the price of the tunnel increased, what would be the tipping point for you not to use it? £4, £5, £6? At £4 it would still be worth your while.

At the moment it is £1.40 - a bargain in comparison.

You don't work in govt perchance?

Being lied to is being lied too. It's the same at Dartford, the tolls were meant to be abolished years ago.

[streaky]

Yung Man said:

It went up to £1.30 in April 2005 and now it's going up this April (2008) by 10p to £1.40.

It's daylight robbery.

Is it free at night then? - Streaky