going for it in your own home but on view

[bryan35]

Can't really think of a correct title, but i'll explain.

From what a mate tells me, he has neighbours living near him who seem to have taken to "going for it" in their front room. nothing wrong with that I suppose, except that they do it on a night, with the curtains fully open, no 'nets', and the light on, which means anyone walking past gets a ring side seat. It's not a case of "sqinting through curtains" either, it's more a case of "on stage with a spot light on them"

Can't be legal surely?

[SS2.]

bryan35 said:

Can't be legal surely?

Which - the humping or the watching ?

[ganglandboss]

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[Munter]

We definately need pictures to assess the situation. But i'm thinking it's not allowed.

[FishFace]

bryan35 said:

Can't really think of a correct title, but i'll explain.

From what a mate tells me, he has neighbours living near him who seem to have taken to "going for it" in their front room. nothing wrong with that I suppose, except that they do it on a night, with the curtains fully open, no 'nets', and the light on, which means anyone walking past gets a ring side seat. It's not a case of "sqinting through curtains" either, it's more a case of "on stage with a spot light on them"

Can't be legal surely?

Outraging public decency. Old common law offence. Section 5 POA? A fair few potential offences depending on what intention the couple have.

A couple of potential ones for people watching, too

[bryan35]

FishFace said:

bryan35 said:

Can't really think of a correct title, but i'll explain.

From what a mate tells me, he has neighbours living near him who seem to have taken to "going for it" in their front room. nothing wrong with that I suppose, except that they do it on a night, with the curtains fully open, no 'nets', and the light on, which means anyone walking past gets a ring side seat. It's not a case of "sqinting through curtains" either, it's more a case of "on stage with a spot light on them"

Can't be legal surely?

Outraging public decency. Old common law offence. Section 5 POA? A fair few potential offences depending on what intention the couple have.

A couple of potential ones for people watching, too

Wondered that about watching, a bit in your face though. PLus what happensif he people watching are children? Could happen very very easilly

[FishFace]

bryan35 said:

FishFace said:

bryan35 said:

Can't really think of a correct title, but i'll explain.

From what a mate tells me, he has neighbours living near him who seem to have taken to "going for it" in their front room. nothing wrong with that I suppose, except that they do it on a night, with the curtains fully open, no 'nets', and the light on, which means anyone walking past gets a ring side seat. It's not a case of "sqinting through curtains" either, it's more a case of "on stage with a spot light on them"

Can't be legal surely?

Outraging public decency. Old common law offence. Section 5 POA? A fair few potential offences depending on what intention the couple have.

A couple of potential ones for people watching, too

Wondered that about watching, a bit in your face though. PLus what happensif he people watching are children? Could happen very very easilly

Indeed. As I've said more offences would possibly come to light with the couple's potential intentions.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/ukpga_2003004...

Sections 11 and 12 deal with those potential things involving children. However, the people would have to be rather perverted to be committing those offences as they need to get sexual gratification from the children watching.

[bryan35]

what's likely to happen do you reckon, if someone makes a complaint - which is prob quite likely according to his tale.

[tigger1]

There's many potential offences here...and they needn't even be deliberately doing it to be seen, just doing it in a place where they reasonably could be seen from the street.

Oddly, there's many inequalities in the law at this point, a man having a wafty crank in that position is committing more offences than a woman as I believe there are certain related offences which only apply to men.

There's lots of cases of people being arrested / cautioned having been seen "knocking one out" through a gap in the curtains...all it takes these days is a report to the police from a passer-by...it's an "easy" result I guess?

[Jasandjules]

anonymous said:

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Armed with a Canon. And a Nikon.

I'd imagine it's outraging public decency at the least, but I think intent would be called into question, though I suspect it's rather hard to suggest that when humping in the lounge with the windows open and lights one had no intent of being seen. A bit different to someone sunbathing naked in their garden which isn't overlooked etc..

[tigger1]

anonymous said:

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There's no need for "intent to be seen" with this kind of thing, so long as somebody could be expected to possibly see from the street going about their normal actions (i.e. not up a ladder with a telescope and night vision goggles)

[Munter]

tigger1 said:

(i.e. not up a ladder with a telescope and night vision goggles)

Damn it. Another pass time outlawed. Next you'll be telling me pushing razor blades into Mars bars and handing them out at halloween is wrong as well.

[Jasandjules]

tigger1 said:

There's no need for "intent to be seen" with this kind of thing, so long as somebody could be expected to possibly see from the street going about their normal actions (i.e. not up a ladder with a telescope and night vision goggles)

Yes, that's what I meant. Outraging public decency IIRC requires an element that it's reasonable to expect to be seen/cause offence therefore there would need to be some logic to infer this, and sitting in the lounge with the curtains open would somewhat detract from a possible defence... hence the difference with that and the naked sunbather..

[FishFace]

tigger1 said:

There's many potential offences here...and they needn't even be deliberately doing it to be seen, just doing it in a place where they reasonably could be seen from the street.

Oddly, there's many inequalities in the law at this point, a man having a wafty crank in that position is committing more offences than a woman as I believe there are certain related offences which only apply to men.

There's lots of cases of people being arrested / cautioned having been seen "knocking one out" through a gap in the curtains...all it takes these days is a report to the police from a passer-by...it's an "easy" result I guess?

The only unequal sexual offence is that only a man can rape. All inequality was removed by the sexual offences act.

[odyssey2200]

So they are basically Doggers who are too lazy to go out in the car or don't own one?

[LivinLaVidaLotus]

Where I used to live, bloke over the road got a call from the police, as someone had complained about him walking around his living room in boxer-shorts - Now to be honest, they'd have to of had binos to know they were boxers and not just shorts, but there we go.

[FishFace]

In the interest of legal accuracy, I must insist you PM me with the link to this documentary

[Chrispy Porker]

anonymous said:

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Women have been convicted of rape.( I think).

[Jasandjules]

Chrispy Porker said:

Women have been convicted of rape.( I think).

I am certainly aware of a women convicted of aiding a rape when she held down the victim for the male - though it could have been actual rape as well, now I think of it I'm not sure if it was aiding or the actual offence.

[PeteG]

LivinLaVidaLotus said:

Where I used to live, bloke over the road got a call from the police, as someone had complained about him walking around his living room in boxer-shorts - Now to be honest, they'd have to of had binos to know they were boxers and not just shorts, but there we go.

What offence is being committed there? If his... area of importance... is covered up, I can't see a problem?