BIB intimidation
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supermono

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7,464 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Ok, now it's happened three times. Once last year I was in the 911 turbo in a village when marked plod came up behind me in a 40 limit (I'd seen him approaching fast on a mission so was doing 40.0) and came to within inches of me. It's possible he'd just seen me on the bypass where it may have appeared I was doing in excess of the speed limit. He followed me all around town far too close for comfort before I turned off and he didn't.

Another time driving the peugeot 207 I was hounded by another bib similarly when I was confused by the random 30/40/30/40 speed limits around Thames Ditton/Sunbury.

This weekend it happened again in Bracknell, though not quite so close. I went through a roundabout light that'd just turned yellow at what may be considered a highish speed into a sharp downhill left hander (I was signalling though!). Bib was waiting at the opposite light and saw me disappear around the turn -- perhaps there was a bit of tyre howl and maybe some sliding. Anyhow, he roared up to me and again followed quite close before turning off.

What's the story? Is this a technique used by bib on here to say "Oi, we saw that, watch what you're doing..."?

SM

splitter / judas

4,330 posts

240 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Some BiB driving is not that good. On the whole it is but you do have individuals that really should be spoken to/made to do a refresher driving course.

Saying that, the speed I saw the water pixies doing through town the other day was highly inappropriate for a pedestrianised area - even if it were on blues and twos nono

Mg6b

6,649 posts

294 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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So. You admit on three different occasions where this has happened, your behaviour and standard of driving has fallen to such a poor level that you have attracted attention from police officers who then follow you!

Are you really surprised?
Sell the 911 Turbo and but an Escort diesel. I can't gaurantee that addressing other issues will not have the same outcome though wink

tvrgit

8,490 posts

283 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Cars like that attract attention.

Cars like that being driven, how shall we put it, on the edge of acceptability attract even more attention, not all of it welcome.

Or maybe the previously tailgated ambulance drivers reported you?

In any case, sounds like they exercised the "discretion" that everybody seems to crave when it's them, and not the "full force of the law" we want when it's somebody else.

Edited by tvrgit on Wednesday 13th February 12:29

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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I don't know, could it be when driven that way (i.e. like it's stolen) plod think it may have been stolen, and come over to take a look? When your standard of driving suddenly comes back into line and you aren't trying to "get away" they decide you didn't nick it after all and proceed on their way?

If they had a real problem they would have pulled you over for it.

I could be cynical and suggest they were trying to goad you into speeding so they could nick you, but if your driving was as described, it's possible they could have nicked you for that anyway.

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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tvrgit said:
Cars like that attract attention.
What, a Pug207.....?

tvrgit

8,490 posts

283 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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esselte said:
tvrgit said:
Cars like that attract attention.
What, a Pug207.....?
missed that bit

supermono

Original Poster:

7,464 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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esselte said:
tvrgit said:
Cars like that attract attention.
What, a Pug207.....?
It does the way I drive it hehe

SM

supermono

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7,464 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Mg6b said:
So. You admit on three different occasions where this has happened, your behaviour and standard of driving has fallen to such a poor level that you have attracted attention from police officers who then follow you!
It's the close following I was interested in.

I'm not saying if the driving standard was poor or not but must have drawn their attention. The discretion is very welcome and I'm happy for them to be on the roads monitoring stuff.

Interestingly when I nipped past an unmarked on the A14 at 96mph* in the turbo then spotted him just after the nick of time, he followed me for > 10 miles at a sensible distance @~85mph without any goading. I guess he was waiting for the "big one" which obviously I wasn't going to do so he stopped me in the end and nicked me with what he had.

SM
  • according to him.

supermono

Original Poster:

7,464 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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tvrgit said:
Or maybe the previously tailgated ambulance drivers reported you?
Even though he held me up for miles and miles in the fast lane on the deserted A14, I didn't tailgate him.

SM

Aubrey

1,157 posts

227 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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It seems to me you were lucky to escape a pull for your first set of bad driving, and then, to do it another 2 times and still get away, does this not tell you something? Perhaps the BiB were being lenient with you on all three occasions, the only way to tell would be if you were in the police car when it follwed you. It may well have been the case they followed you and did a moving vehicle PNC check with the DVLA and finding your details all in order let you carry on. All IMHO of course biggrin

Jules360

1,949 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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supermono said:
esselte said:
tvrgit said:
Cars like that attract attention.
What, a Pug207.....?
It does the way I drive it hehe

SM
I think you just answered your own question.

supermono

Original Poster:

7,464 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Aubrey said:
It seems to me you were lucky to escape a pull for your first set of bad driving
Ahhh, I didn't realise you were there. As I recall I squirted up the bypass before leaving to enter a village at 40, having observed some distance back john law hacking along (perhaps in pursuit) in a car far less capable than mine.

How do you recall it happening?

Anyhow that bit is moot -- it was the driving in my boot all round town that I was interested in comments about.

SM

SirSimon

6,811 posts

234 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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On the bypass this morning 50 Limit. BiB, had lights on not really going that quickly to be honest, maybe about 70+, seen him way behind as it's a straight road. He then stopped his lights just before me, and I thought shit I've been done, but I had the cruise control at 49MPH wink. No idea what he was up too, as he was changing lanes at the roadabout and held all the traffic up!!!

Aubrey

1,157 posts

227 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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supermono said:
"It may have appeared I was doing in excess of the speed limit".

"I was confused by the random 30/40/30/40 speed limits around Thames Ditton/Sunbury".

"perhaps there was a bit of tyre howl and maybe some sliding".

"It does the way I drive it".

SM
Obviously I wasn't there, I'd have probably pulled you! By your own admission your driving was bad enough to attract police attention on three occasions and you're wondering why? I cannot comment for those officers following and I would agree I'm sure there are some bad police drivers there, but the vast majority are good. The circumstances you describe are odd, I have rarely seen this sort of behaviour. I can only assume they had to get close enough to read your plates to do a vehicle check.

It sound's like you want to be pulled over?

supermono

Original Poster:

7,464 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Aubrey said:
It sound's(sic) like you want to be pulled over?
Not at all. Sure I enjoy driving just like most people on here probably do, but I'd like to think that I keep it safe and sound (echoed by my accident history). None of the indicents I described resulted in even a slightly near miss. The speed limit thing was due to ambiguous signage and was probably a bit dangerous because a)he was up my arse and b)I was looking at the speedo and trying to make sense of the signs rather than looking for hazards.

I'm just wondering if the "drive up his arse" technique is commonly used when they (presumably) don't have anything concrete to write a ticket about.

If I had the choice of this situation or no trafpol I'd go for this every time, btw.

SM


supermono

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7,464 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Aubrey said:
Obviously I wasn't there, I'd have probably pulled you!
Out of interest, on what grounds?

SM

Chrispy Porker

17,759 posts

259 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Perhaps they were trying to get close enough to see what colour you were, so that if of a suitably minority etnnicity they could harass you a bit, as is being alleged frequently by some people. wink

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Rather trying to critique the OP's driving style, could a BiB on here actually answer the question about why you would tailgate a vehicle (I'm assuming that it's to better id the driver etc) but would like to have it confirmed if possible?

Aubrey

1,157 posts

227 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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supermono said:
Aubrey said:
Obviously I wasn't there, I'd have probably pulled you!
Out of interest, on what grounds?

SM
Well you've clearly stated you were driving dangerously, tyre howl and sliding on a public road shows you were not in full control at that moment as the highway code will agree with. So on those grounds!

Oh and btw Bing, I did give my thoughts on why they might have been following so closely, to do a vehicle check, and needed to be able to read the plate properly. These can be difficult to read especially if they have road dirt/salt on them etc.