RE: Lewisham To Be 20mph Zone
Thursday 21st February 2008
Set to become a more common sight?Lewisham is set to become the first London council to introduce a 20mph speed limit on practically every road, it has been reported.
Lewisham To Be 20mph Zone
London borough to trial total 20mph zone - others to follow
Set to become a more common sight?
Currently there is a 30mph maximum, but Lewisham could become a pioneer for a virtually blanket 20mph limit.
The new proposals are said to have been inspired by the Green Party and the council’s sustainable development select committee is understood to have voted in favour of it.
If the scheme goes ahead Lewisham would become a guinea pig for the rest of the capital.
The proposals are being pushed through to eliminate the need for costly speed humps and encourage people to walk or cycle.
Up until now 20mph zones have been limited to small areas but London mayor Ken Livingstone is understood to be keen to introduce them across the capital.
The AA has warned that 20mph zones will only make travel more difficult and argues 20mph zones should only be in sensitive or residential areas.
Discussion
Makes no difference to me. It's obvious by now that livingstone has created a monster of a place in London with his birdbrain ideas, I long since stopped doing business there.
The whole green/anti-car/pro-empty bus/CCTV/big brother/parking tickets/pro-congestion traffic systems/congestion charging/etc/etc have written off London for many people. And that's not even considering the stabbings/muggings/graffiti/antisocial ghettos which the law aren't interested in.
It's just a matter of time before business calls it a day and starts to migrate to somewhere nice, along with the people who aren't interested in bulls
t like this.
Then the perps will preside over an empty festering pit of a place and presumably feel pleased at what they've created.
My only worry is that susceptible councils elsewhere will start to jump on the band wagon before the st really hits the fan.
SM
The whole green/anti-car/pro-empty bus/CCTV/big brother/parking tickets/pro-congestion traffic systems/congestion charging/etc/etc have written off London for many people. And that's not even considering the stabbings/muggings/graffiti/antisocial ghettos which the law aren't interested in.
It's just a matter of time before business calls it a day and starts to migrate to somewhere nice, along with the people who aren't interested in bulls
t like this.Then the perps will preside over an empty festering pit of a place and presumably feel pleased at what they've created.
My only worry is that susceptible councils elsewhere will start to jump on the band wagon before the s
t really hits the fan.SM
Errr.... forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't an engine at that speed at its most inefficent? So therefore will be using more fuel and causing more greenhouse gases. (if you believe the tree huggers & Ken himself.)
And basically all because we have a generation of parents who are so st at controlling their kids they won't even tell them off for shop lifting, let alone how to cross a road properly.
I'm going to be really nasty here. 20mph outside schools or hospitals, no worries. Anywhere else you are just pandering to people who are too stupid to cross the road properly and if they did get knocked down would sue you anyway because its always some elses fault.
Its like the sweet little kid advert. "If you hit me at 40 I'll die, if you hit me at 30 I'll live."
Heres an idea sweetheart, try looking both ways before you cross the f****ng road!
And basically all because we have a generation of parents who are so s
t at controlling their kids they won't even tell them off for shop lifting, let alone how to cross a road properly.I'm going to be really nasty here. 20mph outside schools or hospitals, no worries. Anywhere else you are just pandering to people who are too stupid to cross the road properly and if they did get knocked down would sue you anyway because its always some elses fault.
Its like the sweet little kid advert. "If you hit me at 40 I'll die, if you hit me at 30 I'll live."
Heres an idea sweetheart, try looking both ways before you cross the f****ng road!
Edited by The Hypno-Toad on Thursday 21st February 11:07
Broken Hero said:
Lewisham is sthole best avoided anyway.
It's true, (coming from someone who lives there.)thole best avoided anyway.At least this isn't resorting to speed bumps. But still on most roads 20 is a bit too low. I keep up with cars on my bike, then they try and squash me when they get to a speed bump.
Hmmmmm. I motorbike through there most days to work in central London. The trouble with the same jouney every day is, you become complacement to traffic conditions. You learn to know when the traffic builds up where the idiots will pull a u-turn. You almost ride on auto pilot. Not good. So often I'll vary my commute. I'm never in a hurry to get to work. So if the 20mph limit happens I'll detour through Greenwhich or Dulwich. When I cycle it I usually hit 27mph down Loam Pit Hill. Hope they put a speed camera there!
At 20mph drivers will become so bored, there be reading papers, on the phone, puting on make-up and helping there kids with the homework. Oh well maybe somethings won't change.
A load of old B•••••ks
G
At 20mph drivers will become so bored, there be reading papers, on the phone, puting on make-up and helping there kids with the homework. Oh well maybe somethings won't change.
A load of old B•••••ks
G
Blanket policy is simply a result of absense of any other ideas. Of course to actually think about a sensible useful policy would be beyond the capability of most politicians.
Despite this being touted as a trial, looks like we will be needing some direct action in Lewisham before the rot spreads.
Malcolm
Despite this being touted as a trial, looks like we will be needing some direct action in Lewisham before the rot spreads.
Malcolm
You appear to be under the impression that you have a choice when in Kentopia. Didn't you hear? They know what's best for you!I'm sure there was an article on PH a few weeks back mentioning that going driving slowly doesn't help the environment.So in theory that would make Lewisham the worst place to live because of all the C02 increase from going 20mph.
Why can't our government decide on one thing a stick to it?
Why can't our government decide on one thing a stick to it?
Believe me - I intend to make my choice when the mayoral elections come around. However, if there's somewhere on the TfL or Lewisham Borough site that I can vent my spleen about this then I'm more than happy to express my views in the colourful language of my choosing, whether they're listened to or not.
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