Ooooops...not his day
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Is it me or am i just not reading it right ?
The headline says "No jail for 130mph video driver" then, below that is says he "has been given a four-month jail sentence" then under his photo it says he was "spared a custodial sentence for his actions" but further down in the article "We consider what you did was so serious that a custodial sentence was justified."
So is he been send of to jail now or not ?
Medic-one said:
Is it me or am i just not reading it right ?
The headline says "No jail for 130mph video driver" then, below that is says he "has been given a four-month jail sentence" then under his photo it says he was "spared a custodial sentence for his actions" but further down in the article "We consider what you did was so serious that a custodial sentence was justified."
So is he been send of to jail now or not ?
It's you. The headline says "No jail for 130mph video driver" then, below that is says he "has been given a four-month jail sentence" then under his photo it says he was "spared a custodial sentence for his actions" but further down in the article "We consider what you did was so serious that a custodial sentence was justified."
So is he been send of to jail now or not ?
4 month suspended sentence.NobleGuy said:
"We estimate for two minutes you drove like that covering three-to-four miles in this manner."
"The other factor was that you posted it on YouTube, publicising what you did, potentially influencing others."
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
That is immaterial for the offence committed, it's a question of dissuading people from carrying out that or similar behaviour."The other factor was that you posted it on YouTube, publicising what you did, potentially influencing others."
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
NobleGuy said:
"We estimate for two minutes you drove like that covering three-to-four miles in this manner."
"The other factor was that you posted it on YouTube, publicising what you did, potentially influencing others."
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
Go and buy a machine gun, and unload it down the street. Odds are you won't hurt anyone."The other factor was that you posted it on YouTube, publicising what you did, potentially influencing others."
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
Should doing that be legal?
Just out of interest, where would the proof of his speeding come from? Obviously if a scamera van catches you, they have equipment which is calibrated and/or checked daily to ensure it's accuracy, but in this case, who's to say his speedo is even vaguely accurate? Or do they double-check by distance/time checks using roadside markings? If so, who's to say he didn't play with the video for bragging rights? He might have been doing 65mph, but doubled the speed of the video on his PC before uploading it.
Edited by davidwilson666 on Friday 22 February 18:25
davidwilson666 said:
Just out of interest, where would the proof of his speeding come from? Obviously if a scamera van catches you, they have equipment which is calibrated and/or checked daily to ensure it's accuracy, but in this case, who's to say his speedo is even vaguely accurate? Or do they double-check by distance/time checks using roadside markings? If so, who's to say he didn't play with the video for bragging rights? He might have been doing 65mph, but doubled the speed of the video on his PC before uploading it.
I suspect the primarily evidence was an admission on interview, which was corroborated by the speedo and distance / time calculations. The speed didn't need to be 'that' accurate for the dangerous driving charge.Edited by davidwilson666 on Friday 22 February 18:25
I haven't seen the video but if he had alleged that he had doubled the speed it would be very easy to tell.
The officers may have seized the original recording, his PC and they could have even seized his car if needed to test the speedometer accuracy.
I still can't help but think, if their evidence is purely this video that he filmed on his phone, it seems a bit flimsy. I haven't seen the video myself, which makes it more difficult to judge, but a video on a phone isn't that great, then processed again when uploaded to Youtube. Would be interested to see the video myself, dangerous driving is a strong charge, and driving with one hand at 130ish, whilst silly perhaps, isn't necessarily dangerous.
Not trying to start an argument, or say that the judgement was right or wrong, just can't help but think the likes of Nick Freeman wouldn't tear it apart, and get the case dismissed.
Not trying to start an argument, or say that the judgement was right or wrong, just can't help but think the likes of Nick Freeman wouldn't tear it apart, and get the case dismissed.
Edited by davidwilson666 on Friday 22 February 19:00
RtdRacer said:
NobleGuy said:
"We estimate for two minutes you drove like that covering three-to-four miles in this manner."
"The other factor was that you posted it on YouTube, publicising what you did, potentially influencing others."
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
Go and buy a machine gun, and unload it down the street. Odds are you won't hurt anyone."The other factor was that you posted it on YouTube, publicising what you did, potentially influencing others."
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
Should doing that be legal?
Illegal to carry a gun
If you are going to be a pain, at least start from the same reference point!
vonhosen said:
NobleGuy said:
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
That is immaterial for the offence committed, it's a question of dissuading people from carrying out that or similar behaviour.You punish someone on the basis of the potential future behaviour of others...
Nope, don't see any justice there.
fluffnik said:
vonhosen said:
NobleGuy said:
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
That is immaterial for the offence committed, it's a question of dissuading people from carrying out that or similar behaviour.You punish someone on the basis of the potential future behaviour of others...
Nope, don't see any justice there.
Sentencing is two fold, punishment for the behaviour & a deterrent value to display to you & others that a repeat won't be tolerated.
paoloh said:
Not illegal to drive a car
Illegal to carry a gun
If you are going to be a pain, at least start from the same reference point!
Oh for crying out loud. THe point is valid. Both are actions that haven't hurt anyone...this time. Get the point. Illegal to carry a gun
If you are going to be a pain, at least start from the same reference point!
Drive past a school at 150mph. Noone gets hurt. So that's okay? Of course not.
RtdRacer said:
NobleGuy said:
"We estimate for two minutes you drove like that covering three-to-four miles in this manner."
"The other factor was that you posted it on YouTube, publicising what you did, potentially influencing others."
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
Go and buy a machine gun, and unload it down the street. Odds are you won't hurt anyone."The other factor was that you posted it on YouTube, publicising what you did, potentially influencing others."
....and hurt no-one. Still, but of a twonk for posting it....
Should doing that be legal?
He drove this car filming on a Handy phone .. so he drove with one hand.. using a phone in cam mode at 130 mph for three to four miles.
I assume he chose an empty road for this little "jape". I wonder if any action would have been taken had he conducted this on a track. (I rather think the track admin would be rather cross though as it still a big
to do daft like that. Had he been our son .. claws would have been laid into him deep. It not sassy cool.
It
daft. If he want speed kick ... then track days.. IAM courses/. HPC courses.. skid courses und a holiday in Germany (which has safest motorways in Europe.. they lie in 5th position overall in road safety with Switzerland in poll position on safest roads for 2007. UK drop to just holding on to 4th position -- another slide from top spot of the past.
Sources - Basler Zeitung.. Kurier..Kleine Zeitung.. und the ETSC PIN stats.
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