Consumer rights question
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cliffords

Original Poster:

3,051 posts

42 months

Tuesday 28th October
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I purchased in person and collected in person a component from a component supplier .
I fitted the item and it did not function correctly . I returned the item personally to be told that no refund would be given as they insisted it would be tested by the manufacturer before any refund, to determine if the component is faulty or otherwise .
The item was collected and returned in a period of 26 days .

It does not feel right to me what's your view.

Mojooo

13,268 posts

199 months

Tuesday 28th October
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Under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 you can reject within 30 days if it
- not as described
- not fit for purpose
- not satisfactory quality

When using the 'short term right to reject' - the onus is on you to prove the fault existed.

Now the CRA says you can treat the contract and rejected and ended but that doesn't mean much unless the seller agrees

So they are entitled to examine the item and confirm it is not as described etc.

There is a seperate set of rights, where in the first 6 months the onus is on the seller to prove the item WAS as described etc at time of sale. The remedies under this are first repair or replacement and if neither possible a partial or full refund depending on what is apropriate.

BertBert

20,597 posts

230 months

Tuesday 28th October
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cliffords said:
I purchased in person and collected in person a component from a component supplier .
I fitted the item and it did not function correctly . I returned the item personally to be told that no refund would be given as they insisted it would be tested by the manufacturer before any refund, to determine if the component is faulty or otherwise .
The item was collected and returned in a period of 26 days .

It does not feel right to me what's your view.
Presumably they are not saying no refund, they are saying no refund until we have confirmed it as faulty as determined by the manufacturer testing it. I assume that the component is such that it can't be shown as faulty without the things it is a component of?

cliffords

Original Poster:

3,051 posts

42 months

Tuesday 28th October
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Thank you for the quick and clear reply .

Given you state they have the right to inspect and confirm not as described etc , they did inspect when I returned it today, however they then ask the manufacturer to do this on their behalf,this is what they have done . I purchased it from the retailer not the manufacturer . I don't have a good feeling about the outcome.
The manufacturer will have to confirm their product is faulty, before the seller will consider a refund. I am old enough to see where this goes . I take it that there is no trading standards breach here , denying a refund for a faulty item within 30 days?

Thank you again.



mcpoot

1,078 posts

126 months

Tuesday 28th October
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Clock stops when you returned and rejected the item at 26 days so they cant come back after the manufacturer has checked it and say you are now over 30 days.

I presume there is no way the seller can confirm the component is faulty.

cliffords

Original Poster:

3,051 posts

42 months

Tuesday 28th October
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BertBert said:
cliffords said:
I purchased in person and collected in person a component from a component supplier .
I fitted the item and it did not function correctly . I returned the item personally to be told that no refund would be given as they insisted it would be tested by the manufacturer before any refund, to determine if the component is faulty or otherwise .
The item was collected and returned in a period of 26 days .

It does not feel right to me what's your view.
Presumably they are not saying no refund, they are saying no refund until we have confirmed it as faulty as determined by the manufacturer testing it. I assume that the component is such that it can't be shown as faulty without the things it is a component of?
They are saying no refund, unless it is determined faulty by the manufacturer .

It's an item a competent engineer or the manufacturer can test in isolation

Simpo Two

90,162 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th October
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cliffords said:
They are saying no refund, unless it is determined faulty by the manufacturer .
So they'll pay return postage to China? It's cobblers.

cliffords

Original Poster:

3,051 posts

42 months

Tuesday 28th October
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Simpo Two said:
cliffords said:
They are saying no refund, unless it is determined faulty by the manufacturer .
So they'll pay return postage to China? It's cobblers.
The item is manufactured in the UK

Simpo Two

90,162 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th October
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cliffords said:
The item is manufactured in the UK
Surprising, but it's still irrelevant - he's playing with you. Your contract is with him.

OutInTheShed

12,662 posts

45 months

Tuesday 28th October
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Not knowing what the 'component' is, it might be possible there is nothing wrong with the 'component' but it didn't function in the OP's 'system' because of a fault with the system or incorrect selection of 'component'.

Some 'components' in my world cost buttons but would take many hours and expensive gear to test against their spec.


I think this is why some businesses try hard not to supply 'components' to the general public.

It may also be possible the OP has damaged the component.
Not knowing whether the 'component' is a bolt of a microprocessor or.... it's hard to be clear about the matter.

cliffords

Original Poster:

3,051 posts

42 months

Tuesday 28th October
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Yes. I have kept it vague deliberately, whilst I consider next steps and any outcomes. It's a fairly mundane item most on here would be familiar with.
I might post an outcome in a week or so .

Sebring440

2,908 posts

115 months

Tuesday 28th October
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cliffords said:
I might post an outcome in a week or so .
That's very good of you.