Can you legally park a caravan or trailer outside your house
Can you legally park a caravan or trailer outside your house
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tight fart

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3,344 posts

293 months

Monday 1st December
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Can you legally park a caravan or trailer outside your house, just to stop someone else parking there?
Close to me, near a station is one spot in the road without restrictions, so the home owner has put a box trailer there to stop other people parking there, he may use it as a shed for all I know, in 5/6 years I’ve never known it to move. It also restricts turning at the end of the close.
Whilst bored waiting to pick the wife up I put the reg into a car checker, it doesn’t exist so false plate.
Is this legal?

Simpo Two

90,442 posts

285 months

Monday 1st December
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You could try reporting it to the Council as abandoned.

andburg

8,390 posts

189 months

Monday 1st December
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Absolutely legal as long as it’s facing the correct way and not causing an obstruction to traffic.

foccer

17 posts

5 months

Monday 1st December
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andburg said:
Absolutely legal as long as it s facing the correct way and not causing an obstruction to traffic.
Doesnt it need to have lights on at night too?

stressd

32 posts

26 months

Monday 1st December
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Is it legal to have a false plate? Hmmm, let me think…

Super Sonic

11,275 posts

74 months

Monday 1st December
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foccer said:
Doesnt it need to have lights on at night too?
Wouldn't that be the same as the necessity of having sidelights on a car lit? Ie if parked on an unlit road with a speed limit over 30 and not in a parking bay.

Inbox

1,140 posts

6 months

Monday 1st December
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Now if only it magically got towed to a space with double yellow trimmings...

miniman

28,893 posts

282 months

Monday 1st December
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stressd said:
Is it legal to have a false plate? Hmmm, let me think
Is there any legal requirement for a trailer or caravan to carry a VRN when not being towed? The VRN relates to the towing vehicle.

FiF

47,491 posts

271 months

Monday 1st December
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Super Sonic said:
foccer said:
Doesnt it need to have lights on at night too?
Wouldn't that be the same as the necessity of having sidelights on a car lit? Ie if parked on an unlit road with a speed limit over 30 and not in a parking bay.
It needs to be lit.

Also the rules relating to parking a car unlit in a 30 etc don't apply if you have a trailer attached.

LotsOfLaughs

304 posts

35 months

Monday 1st December
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On your own property, you can.
On a public road, I don't think so. I've not seen anyone ever leave a trailer at the side of the road without a car, I imagine it'd be stolen immediately.

Super Sonic

11,275 posts

74 months

Monday 1st December
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FiF said:
Super Sonic said:
foccer said:
Doesnt it need to have lights on at night too?
Wouldn't that be the same as the necessity of having sidelights on a car lit? Ie if parked on an unlit road with a speed limit over 30 and not in a parking bay.
It needs to be lit.

Also the rules relating to parking a car unlit in a 30 etc don't apply if you have a trailer attached.
Your going to have to make that less ambiguous. When you say 'it needs to be lit' do you mean a trailer or a car? Under what circumstances?. And what rules about parking in a 30? You don't need lights for that.

FiF

47,491 posts

271 months

Monday 1st December
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A trailer can be parked on a road and not attached to a vehicle. There are specific rules about which lights need to be lit at night. No lights is not an option.

As for a car, goods vehicle gvw <2500kg, invalid carriages, motorcycles, cycles, may be parked at night without lights, in a road with a 30 limit or less, more than 10 metres from any junction, close to the kerb, facing the direction of traffic flow, in a recognised parking space or lay-by.

If a trailer is attached this does not apply to both car and trailer, then lights must be illuminated. Just to be clear both car and trailer need to be lit.

Super Sonic

11,275 posts

74 months

Monday 1st December
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FiF said:
A trailer can be parked on a road and not attached to a vehicle. There are specific rules about which lights need to be lit at night. No lights is not an option.

As for a car, goods vehicle gvw <2500kg, invalid carriages, motorcycles, cycles, may be parked at night without lights, in a road with a 30 limit or less, more than 10 metres from any junction, close to the kerb, facing the direction of traffic flow, in a recognised parking space or lay-by.

If a trailer is attached this does not apply to both car and trailer, then lights must be illuminated. Just to be clear both car and trailer need to be lit.
Thanks. I misremembered a couple of bits.

kestral

2,078 posts

227 months

Monday 1st December
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LotsOfLaughs said:
On your own property, you can.
On a public road, I don't think so. I've not seen anyone ever leave a trailer at the side of the road without a car, I imagine it'd be stolen immediately.
Many newer houses have restrictive covenants prevent the storage/parking of caravans on the property.

RotorRambler

653 posts

10 months

Tuesday 2nd December
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Report you can use on EFDC’s form

Location: [insert street name, house number or nearest landmark, postcode]
Description: Box trailer/caravan parked on the public road outside [address/landmark]. It appears to have been stationary for years (I have photos dated [dates]). It restricts turning at the end of the close (see photos) and the registration does not appear to be valid when checked. Please can you investigate as abandoned/obstructive vehicle. Thank you.
(Attach photos and the reg you checked.)

Final tips & likely timescale
• Councils sometimes take a few days to inspect and longer to complete removal if owner enquiries are required; reporting promptly with clear photos speeds things up. (GOV.UK and EFDC explain the notice/inspection steps.)

Opapayer

359 posts

5 months

Tuesday 2nd December
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kestral said:
Many newer houses have restrictive covenants prevent the storage/parking of caravans on the property.
Who is going to enforce them. How are they going to enforce them. What’s the penalty if they did try to enforce them?

To save you the time here are the answers:

Nobody

There’s no realistic way

Nothing

The developers have those clauses in the (very, very long) leases so that they site remains nice and attractive while they finish all the remaining phases. Once the developer is off site and all houses sold, they don’t care what happens. There’s also no way they could enforce them as said previously.

ac.cobra

74 posts

46 months

Tuesday 2nd December
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No, you can not leave a unhitched trailer on the road indefinitely.

Drumroll

4,306 posts

140 months

Tuesday 2nd December
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tight fart said:
Can you legally park a caravan or trailer outside your house, just to stop someone else parking there?
Close to me, near a station is one spot in the road without restrictions, so the home owner has put a box trailer there to stop other people parking there, he may use it as a shed for all I know, in 5/6 years I ve never known it to move. It also restricts turning at the end of the close.
Whilst bored waiting to pick the wife up I put the reg into a car checker, it doesn t exist so false plate.
Is this legal?
As a trailer doesn't actually need a number plate (unless it is being towed) it can't have false plates.



Mr.Chips

1,176 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd December
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One of my neighbours turned up last June with a huge caravan. It was so big that, even with the back parked against his garage door, it was overhanging the pavement so much that everyone had to step in the road to get past it. In addition, it was so wide that it blocked some of the other neighbours access to their back garden path. Someone who has lived on our development since it was built in 2006 told him that there was a covenant on the deeds to stop people from parking caravans here. Caravan owner is a bit of a dick and said he didn’t care and would do what he wanted on his property. Karma visited him a few weeks later when, trying to negotiate the T-junction off the development he overcooked it a bit and tipped the caravan on its side. Needless to say, it hasn’t reappeared!
biglaugh

Opapayer

359 posts

5 months

Tuesday 2nd December
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Mr.Chips said:
One of my neighbours turned up last June with a huge caravan. It was so big that, even with the back parked against his garage door, it was overhanging the pavement so much that everyone had to step in the road to get past it. In addition, it was so wide that it blocked some of the other neighbours access to their back garden path. Someone who has lived on our development since it was built in 2006 told him that there was a covenant on the deeds to stop people from parking caravans here. Caravan owner is a bit of a dick and said he didn t care and would do what he wanted on his property. Karma visited him a few weeks later when, trying to negotiate the T-junction off the development he overcooked it a bit and tipped the caravan on its side. Needless to say, it hasn t reappeared!
biglaugh
Based on what I’ve written above I’d like to know what you think the consequences of breaking the covenant are in the real world. I’ve got a few houses and a lot of the stuff in the 999 year lease is hilarious. No satellite dishes on the front of houses, no commercial vehicles overnight, front doors have to be a certain colour, even the wooden beams on the render that are purely cosmetic are supposed to be a certain shade of brown and other nonsense. This is on 1990s new build estate with a mix of 2 bed mews / semis 3 bed semi / detached and 4 & 5 bed detached. Loads of people ignore it and there’s no way the leaseholder can enforce anything.

I’d love to know what people think could happen. Not some theoretical claim over forfeiting the lease and property as I’m pretty certain every mortgage lender would have something to say about that. No way would a court allow a leaseholder to claim a property off an owner either. No financial penalty can be applied and with 970 years left on the lease it’ll be a long time until anything gets renegotiated.