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Police to trial hi-tech handheld speed cameras
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyv0001jm20o#c...
State-of-the art handheld cameras that use both laser and video technology to detect speeding drivers are to be trialled by police in Northern Ireland.
The Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) said the three Trucam II cameras will help officers "enforce speed limits more effectively, and respond to local priorities and concerns"..................Speed is recognised as one of the Fatal Five, external,. It contributes significantly to the number of people killed or seriously injured on Northern Ireland roads.
Anne’s Story
Before and after the crash
https://www.psni.police.uk/safety-and-support/road...
It wasn't speed that caused the accident; it was a pissed driver.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyv0001jm20o#c...
State-of-the art handheld cameras that use both laser and video technology to detect speeding drivers are to be trialled by police in Northern Ireland.
The Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) said the three Trucam II cameras will help officers "enforce speed limits more effectively, and respond to local priorities and concerns"..................Speed is recognised as one of the Fatal Five, external,. It contributes significantly to the number of people killed or seriously injured on Northern Ireland roads.
Anne’s Story
Before and after the crash
https://www.psni.police.uk/safety-and-support/road...
It wasn't speed that caused the accident; it was a pissed driver.
gazza285 said:
KE=1/2mv²
Speed might not be the cause, but it does influence the outcome.
It's the speed on impact that influences the outcome, not the speed at which the vehicle was travelling beforehand. A more alert / less drunk driver could react quicker to a hazard, resulting in a lower impact speed and less damage / risk to life. So arguably the state of the driver is equally or more important than the speed at which they were travelling before the hazard became apparent.Speed might not be the cause, but it does influence the outcome.
56.1 percent of fatal collisions involve at least one speed related factor, and these are exceeding the speed limit, driving too fast for the conditions and or driver being aggressive, dangerous or reckless.
Those saying that speed isn't in it itself dangerous are merely trying to defend their god like driving ability but they fail to account of other road users and their ability to anticipate your speed and also the consequences when the accident happens.
Speed limits are there to protect everyone, even driving gods, and its also a lot more relaxing driving within the speed limit knowing you don't have to concern yourself with speed cameras.
Those saying that speed isn't in it itself dangerous are merely trying to defend their god like driving ability but they fail to account of other road users and their ability to anticipate your speed and also the consequences when the accident happens.
Speed limits are there to protect everyone, even driving gods, and its also a lot more relaxing driving within the speed limit knowing you don't have to concern yourself with speed cameras.
springfan62 said:
56.1 percent of fatal collisions involve at least one speed related factor
Correct. Stationary vehicles don't hit each other. There is only one type of accident 100% attributable to excess speed. With all other accidents, changing the speed factor wouldn't have prevented that type of accident.springfan62 said:
56.1 percent of fatal collisions involve at least one speed related factor, and these are exceeding the speed limit, driving too fast for the conditions and or driver being aggressive, dangerous or reckless.
Those saying that speed isn't in it itself dangerous are merely trying to defend their god like driving ability but they fail to account of other road users and their ability to anticipate your speed and also the consequences when the accident happens.
Speed limits are there to protect everyone, even driving gods, and its also a lot more relaxing driving within the speed limit knowing you don't have to concern yourself with speed cameras.
The 56.1% figure is not correct as it has been calculated by simply adding separate percentages together. Those contributory factors overlap, so the same fatal collision may be counted under more than one category. Those saying that speed isn't in it itself dangerous are merely trying to defend their god like driving ability but they fail to account of other road users and their ability to anticipate your speed and also the consequences when the accident happens.
Speed limits are there to protect everyone, even driving gods, and its also a lot more relaxing driving within the speed limit knowing you don't have to concern yourself with speed cameras.
Anne's story clearly shows that it wasn't speed that was to blame. Nor was it the fact that whoever was driving (her?) was pissed up and unable to control a car.
No.
It was the ditch.
Ban ditches. Ditches account for a large proportion of the crashes around here. The same people who can be sure to drive drunk at 70mph on a motorway without ending up in a ditch, you make a ditch available and they crash. Usually into a ditch.
Oh sure, some might say that ditches are necessary, but when was the last time you saw a waterlogged field? No, me neither, so fill in the ditches.
(Sarcasm, just in case anyone missed it!)
No.
It was the ditch.
Ban ditches. Ditches account for a large proportion of the crashes around here. The same people who can be sure to drive drunk at 70mph on a motorway without ending up in a ditch, you make a ditch available and they crash. Usually into a ditch.
Oh sure, some might say that ditches are necessary, but when was the last time you saw a waterlogged field? No, me neither, so fill in the ditches.
(Sarcasm, just in case anyone missed it!)
springfan62 said:
56.1 percent of fatal collisions involve at least one speed related factor, and these are exceeding the speed limit, driving too fast for the conditions and or driver being aggressive, dangerous or reckless.
And what percentage of that 56.1% would have been caught by a speed camera?robinessex said:
springfan62 said:
56.1 percent of fatal collisions involve at least one speed related factor
Correct. Stationary vehicles don't hit each other. There is only one type of accident 100% attributable to excess speed. With all other accidents, changing the speed factor wouldn't have prevented that type of accident.But as a driving god you don't need time to perceive a hazard, react to it and brake.
And of course hitting another vehicle or a pedestrian at a higher speed doesn't increase the likelihood of it being fatal!
Edited by springfan62 on Wednesday 8th July 15:41
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