Ulez cameras not just ulez
Discussion
largelunchbox said:
Just a heads up really, the new ulez cameras are being used for speeding and probably others offences as well. I’ve just been Caught for speeding where there were previously no cameras for speeding and have been caught by a new ulez camera install recently.
That's a bit odd. Are you sure there wasn't a van or something nearby?(Usually these cameras are dedicated to their purpose...not that I'm an expert)
I thought everyone knew the cameras have nothing to do with emissions? Does anyone still actually believe that claptrap?
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
So yes, they will no doubt record speeding, have facial recognition etc etc.
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
So yes, they will no doubt record speeding, have facial recognition etc etc.
Edited by ITP on Friday 8th September 18:03
largelunchbox said:
Just a heads up really, the new ulez cameras are being used for speeding and probably others offences as well. I’ve just been Caught for speeding where there were previously no cameras for speeding and have been caught by a new ulez camera install recently.
Doesn't the road need to have the white painted calibration lines? Or, were they also there? ITP said:
I thought everyone knew the cameras have nothing to do with emissions? Does anyone still actually believe that claptrap?
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
Absolutely. Have you worked out why they only want to crudely surveil and control you in the ULEZ zone rather than use your phone to track you anywhere in the world or your social media / loyalty cards and the rest to predict your behaviour and nudge your beliefs and control you in your daily life?The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
largelunchbox said:
Just a heads up really, the new ulez cameras are being used for speeding and probably others offences as well. I’ve just been Caught for speeding where there were previously no cameras for speeding and have been caught by a new ulez camera install recently.
"Once the testing has been completed, they will be used to ensure scheme integrity and to ensure the cameras only capture vehicles driving on the roads entering/exiting or driving inside the ULEZ area. The mobile ANPR camera data will not be used for traffic monitoring." 29 Aug 2023https://content.tfl.gov.uk/london-wide-ulez-use-of...
You can ask for the photo which will identify the location.
largelunchbox said:
Just a heads up really, the new ulez cameras are being used for speeding and probably others offences as well. I’ve just been Caught for speeding where there were previously no cameras for speeding and have been caught by a new ulez camera install recently.
"Once the testing has been completed, they will be used to ensure scheme integrity and to ensure the cameras only capture vehicles driving on the roads entering/exiting or driving inside the ULEZ area. The mobile ANPR camera data will not be used for traffic monitoring." 29 Aug 2023https://content.tfl.gov.uk/london-wide-ulez-use-of...
You can ask for the photo which will identify the location.
smn159 said:
ITP said:
I thought everyone knew the cameras have nothing to do with emissions? Does anyone still actually believe that claptrap?
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
Absolutely. Have you worked out why they only want to crudely surveil and control you in the ULEZ zone rather than use your phone to track you anywhere in the world or your social media / loyalty cards and the rest to predict your behaviour and nudge your beliefs and control you in your daily life?The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
smn159 said:
ITP said:
I thought everyone knew the cameras have nothing to do with emissions? Does anyone still actually believe that claptrap?
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
Absolutely. Have you worked out why they only want to crudely surveil and control you in the ULEZ zone rather than use your phone to track you anywhere in the world or your social media / loyalty cards and the rest to predict your behaviour and nudge your beliefs and control you in your daily life?The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
ITP said:
smn159 said:
ITP said:
I thought everyone knew the cameras have nothing to do with emissions? Does anyone still actually believe that claptrap?
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
Absolutely. Have you worked out why they only want to crudely surveil and control you in the ULEZ zone rather than use your phone to track you anywhere in the world or your social media / loyalty cards and the rest to predict your behaviour and nudge your beliefs and control you in your daily life?The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
As for restricting car use, If it's a step towards weaning a fat and unfit population away from car use for every short journey and starting to think about towns and cities that aren't designed exclusively around car use then I'm all for it.
It's entirely possible to enjoy car ownership without having to jump in a diesel every time you leave the house
smn159 said:
ITP said:
smn159 said:
ITP said:
I thought everyone knew the cameras have nothing to do with emissions? Does anyone still actually believe that claptrap?
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
Absolutely. Have you worked out why they only want to crudely surveil and control you in the ULEZ zone rather than use your phone to track you anywhere in the world or your social media / loyalty cards and the rest to predict your behaviour and nudge your beliefs and control you in your daily life?The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
As for restricting car use, If it's a step towards weaning a fat and unfit population away from car use for every short journey and starting to think about towns and cities that aren't designed exclusively around car use then I'm all for it.
It's entirely possible to enjoy car ownership without having to jump in a diesel every time you leave the house
Taking your post at face value OP - Ask for the evidence - a quick generic email response to the NIP - 'I am the registered keeper, however am currently unsure who might have been driving at the time of alleged offence. In order to assist me in determining this please can you send me a copy of the recorded footage/screen grab/evidence" blah blah etc.
From that determine if it was a ULEZ or mobile.
From that determine if it was a ULEZ or mobile.
ITP said:
I thought everyone knew the cameras have nothing to do with emissions? Does anyone still actually believe that claptrap?
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
So yes, they will no doubt record speeding, have facial recognition etc etc.
That's what they want you to think. The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
So yes, they will no doubt record speeding, have facial recognition etc etc.
smn159 said:
ITP said:
smn159 said:
ITP said:
I thought everyone knew the cameras have nothing to do with emissions? Does anyone still actually believe that claptrap?
The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
Absolutely. Have you worked out why they only want to crudely surveil and control you in the ULEZ zone rather than use your phone to track you anywhere in the world or your social media / loyalty cards and the rest to predict your behaviour and nudge your beliefs and control you in your daily life?The real, and obvious, reason for installing hundreds of cameras is for surveillance and control. The cash is good for them too, but that is secondary.
As for restricting car use, If it's a step towards weaning a fat and unfit population away from car use for every short journey and starting to think about towns and cities that aren't designed exclusively around car use then I'm all for it.
It's entirely possible to enjoy car ownership without having to jump in a diesel every time you leave the house
And is London designed exclusively around the car?
Thanks.
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