Untaxed vehicle fine...
Discussion
So i am a car dealer from home. Just a sideline where I buy 5 or 6 vehicles a year to sell on.
I bought a vehicle with no log book from an insurance company. To sell this vehicle on, I need the logbook, so I applied in my name and it came. The vehicle was then sold on but, I was away travelling for a month so my other half gave the buyer all the documents (didn't fill out the v5, he was a trader).
Now I'm getting fines through the door for it being untaxed (it wasn't declared sorn). I dont have possession of this vehicle anymore but, of course, it's still in my name.
So I've since appealed the fine with gov/dvla.
Here's the main question I have.
Online, it says if you're a motor trader and the vehicle stays on your business premises, you don't need to sorn it or tax it within the first 3 months. It says AS Long as you don't put the vehicle in your name.
Well, I had no choice but to put it in my name as I didn't have the v5 to resell it on and so had to apply for the v5 and the v5 needed to be in my name.
Does anyone have any knowledge on this?
I bought a vehicle with no log book from an insurance company. To sell this vehicle on, I need the logbook, so I applied in my name and it came. The vehicle was then sold on but, I was away travelling for a month so my other half gave the buyer all the documents (didn't fill out the v5, he was a trader).
Now I'm getting fines through the door for it being untaxed (it wasn't declared sorn). I dont have possession of this vehicle anymore but, of course, it's still in my name.
So I've since appealed the fine with gov/dvla.
Here's the main question I have.
Online, it says if you're a motor trader and the vehicle stays on your business premises, you don't need to sorn it or tax it within the first 3 months. It says AS Long as you don't put the vehicle in your name.
Well, I had no choice but to put it in my name as I didn't have the v5 to resell it on and so had to apply for the v5 and the v5 needed to be in my name.
Does anyone have any knowledge on this?
If you had to apply for a new V5 (eg using a V62 form) and it arrives in your name, you should have SORN'd it immediately (I think there's an option to declare SORN from the outset, when you apply using the V62 form).
When you sold it to another trader, you should have put it "into trade" at that point. Yes YOU, not the other trader - it is the registered keeper's responsibility. You can do this online with the V5 11 digit reference number.
When you passed it onto the other trader, I don't suppose you prepared an invoice/receipt either.....
ETA there's also the option of putting it "into trade" as soon as the V5 in your name arrives. It then means you don't need to SORN it, and another quirk of the system is you can't drive a car registered in your name on trade plates, so if you wanted to do this, in theory, that's the route. But if you wanted to use it eg keep it back for personal use etc, and you needed to tax it, you'd need to register it back into your name as RK (further increased the number of previous keepers).
"Don't buy anything without a V5" is a good rule to have. And if you do, understand the things which need to be done and make a price adjustment for the extra RK and V62 application (£25).
When you sold it to another trader, you should have put it "into trade" at that point. Yes YOU, not the other trader - it is the registered keeper's responsibility. You can do this online with the V5 11 digit reference number.
When you passed it onto the other trader, I don't suppose you prepared an invoice/receipt either.....
ETA there's also the option of putting it "into trade" as soon as the V5 in your name arrives. It then means you don't need to SORN it, and another quirk of the system is you can't drive a car registered in your name on trade plates, so if you wanted to do this, in theory, that's the route. But if you wanted to use it eg keep it back for personal use etc, and you needed to tax it, you'd need to register it back into your name as RK (further increased the number of previous keepers).
"Don't buy anything without a V5" is a good rule to have. And if you do, understand the things which need to be done and make a price adjustment for the extra RK and V62 application (£25).
Edited by paul_c123 on Tuesday 24th June 23:26
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