How do undercover police/MI5 avoid being pulled over?
How do undercover police/MI5 avoid being pulled over?
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Somewhatfoolish

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4,919 posts

206 months

Friday 1st August
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AIUI some types of undercover policing like surveillance potentially involves driving very quickly. Are there "secret signs" and things like that that mean a car will be left alone, or is the truth something more mundane like radioing ahead? Or maybe they do get pulled over routinely? Or are they mostly on "their patch" so their colleagues recognise the cars? Or is it just that there's so few police they're unlikely to be picked up?

Earthdweller

16,784 posts

146 months

Friday 1st August
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No they get pulled .. a quick word and flash of badge normally suffices

Re speed cameras etc most truly covert vehicles are on ghost identities and transgressions will be passed on to relevant units and dealt with

WolvesWill

155 posts

169 months

Friday 1st August
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Can concur with the above. Can and do get pulled over.

If your surveillance cars are being recognised by your local bobbies when 'on patch' then you've already failed at being covert.

edthefed

812 posts

87 months

Friday 1st August
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There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.

Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

4,919 posts

206 months

Friday 1st August
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edthefed said:
There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.
Are these things that in principle a "civilian" could do? (Obviously don't explain what they are).

Sebring440

2,975 posts

116 months

Friday 1st August
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Somewhatfoolish said:
edthefed said:
There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.
Are these things that in principle a "civilian" could do? (Obviously don't explain what they are).
Obviously, please explain what they are!

Simon_GH

818 posts

100 months

Friday 1st August
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Cliftonite

8,647 posts

158 months

Friday 1st August
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Sebring440 said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
edthefed said:
There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.
Are these things that in principle a "civilian" could do? (Obviously don't explain what they are).
Obviously, please explain what they are!
rofl

911hope

3,784 posts

46 months

Friday 1st August
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Invisibility cloak.

hidetheelephants

32,431 posts

213 months

Friday 1st August
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Use The Force, innit.


Somewhatfoolish

Original Poster:

4,919 posts

206 months

Friday 1st August
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Sebring440 said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
edthefed said:
There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.
Are these things that in principle a "civilian" could do? (Obviously don't explain what they are).
Obviously, please explain what they are!
I'm trying to use cunning reverse psychology ffs

SiH

1,851 posts

267 months

Friday 1st August
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edthefed said:
There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.
Get a Black Rat sticker for the back of your car. I gather that Traf Pol never pull over a car that's displaying such a sticker smile

anonymous-user

74 months

Saturday 2nd August
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Put one of these of the back of your car


surveyor

18,531 posts

204 months

Saturday 2nd August
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A former colleague used to work the Benefits Agency (which shows how long ago this was).

They were running a joint operation to catch illegal workers, but they ended up rural fields picking crops so could be anywhere in Lincolnshire. They decided to follow the minibus which they knew picked up in certain locations.

Ex-colleague somehow ended up doing the following of a surprisingly fast moving minibus and PC traffic decided he liked the look of her car..

Apparently he did not believe her that she was part of a multi agency operation and would not even ring Inspector **whatever his name was**

Result was they lost the minibus and the operation was bust. Inspector **whatever his name was** was not happy. Ex-colleague got 3 points and a fine (before courses). She was able to claim the fine back on expenses... The points were the points....


vikingaero

12,011 posts

189 months

Saturday 2nd August
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Sebring440 said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
edthefed said:
There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.
Are these things that in principle a "civilian" could do? (Obviously don't explain what they are).
Obviously, please explain what they are!
I'm trying to use cunning reverse psychology ffs
The undercover Police use a special hand signal to notify pursuing Plod that are job. You flip the middle finger, but not fully erect, simply at a weaker angle.

edthefed

812 posts

87 months

Saturday 2nd August
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Somewhatfoolish said:
edthefed said:
There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.
Are these things that in principle a "civilian" could do? (Obviously don't explain what they are).
In principle NO


Sticks.

9,527 posts

271 months

Saturday 2nd August
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surveyor said:
A former colleague used to work the Benefits Agency (which shows how long ago this was).

They were running a joint operation to catch illegal workers, but they ended up rural fields picking crops so could be anywhere in Lincolnshire. They decided to follow the minibus which they knew picked up in certain locations.

Ex-colleague somehow ended up doing the following of a surprisingly fast moving minibus and PC traffic decided he liked the look of her car..

Apparently he did not believe her that she was part of a multi agency operation and would not even ring Inspector **whatever his name was**

Result was they lost the minibus and the operation was bust. Inspector **whatever his name was** was not happy. Ex-colleague got 3 points and a fine (before courses). She was able to claim the fine back on expenses... The points were the points....
This seems odd as in the past, people doing this sort of work would have their vehicle registered via Home Office as being used for this purpose. And would be carrying a warrant card/ID which they could've shown. There are limits though and perhaps their driving was too fast or they hadn't had the appropriate training.


TheRainMaker

7,444 posts

262 months

Saturday 2nd August
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edthefed said:
There are various "ways and means" of minimising the risk of being stopped BUT not for discussion on a public forum.
Not driving like a muppet would be a good start hehe



Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,389 posts

185 months

Saturday 2nd August
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vikingaero said:
The undercover Police use a special hand signal to notify pursuing Plod that are job. You flip the middle finger, but not fully erect, simply at a weaker angle.
Thanks for sharing. I’m gonna try this next time I’ve got the fuzz on my tail. Definitely.

Simpo Two

90,475 posts

285 months

Saturday 2nd August
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WolvesWill said:
If your surveillance cars are being recognised by your local bobbies when 'on patch' then you've already failed at being covert.
But then driving at 100mph isn't exactly covert either. To be covert you need a faceless grey SUV and drive in the middle lane at 60...