Woman, 86, convicted after car insurance typo error
Woman, 86, convicted after car insurance typo error
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Googie

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2,295 posts

153 months

Monday 20th April
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computer says no-mind how you go

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g5xee663zo

sixor8

8,330 posts

295 months

Monday 20th April
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Sounds cruel, but they have to do this. Or, word gets round that by putting one letter wrong 'by accident' would get you much cheaper insurance. Possibly unlucky that the make of car was the same (if it was?) so not spotted earlier. frown

ralphrj

4,025 posts

218 months

Monday 20th April
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sixor8 said:
Sounds cruel, but they have to do this. Or, word gets round that by putting one letter wrong 'by accident' would get you much cheaper insurance. Possibly unlucky that the make of car was the same (if it was?) so not spotted earlier. frown
This

It is a technical offence and she was given a short, conditional discharge which meant that so long as the error was corrected the conviction was spent as soon as the conditional discharge expired.

_Rodders_

3,082 posts

46 months

Monday 20th April
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In two minds on that one. Rather draconian way of dealing with it but I've got some serious questions about her fitness to drive if she's unable to check the main details on the document when they were posted out. She will have had atleast 3 chances to spot the mistake.

croyde

26,060 posts

257 months

Monday 20th April
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Fekin ridiculous. Shoplifters allowed to nick whatever they want. Fire anyone that tries to stop them.

Illegal E Motorbikes everywhere but why don't we get an easy bust and do an old lady that hit the wrong key on her keyboard.

What if the 'wrong' plate belonged to a Lambo and the insurance company pocketed the windfall.

What a waste of tax payers money!

MB140

4,949 posts

130 months

Monday 20th April
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croyde said:
Fekin ridiculous. Shoplifters allowed to nick whatever they want. Fire anyone that tries to stop them.

Illegal E Motorbikes everywhere but why don't we get an easy bust and do an old lady that hit the wrong key on her keyboard.

What if the 'wrong' plate belonged to a Lambo and the insurance company pocketed the windfall.

What a waste of tax payers money!
I’ve got to say I agree. I find that utterly unpalatable, I realise the sentence is about as low as you can go but…….

When we can’t be arsed to prosecute much worst low life scumbags who are actually effecting honest citizens lives (assault, theft, domestic burglary etc etc then it seems wrong.

The law is about honesty, justice and protecting everyone. This just stinks.

Googie

Original Poster:

2,295 posts

153 months

Monday 20th April
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croyde said:
Fekin ridiculous. Shoplifters allowed to nick whatever they want. Fire anyone that tries to stop them.

Illegal E Motorbikes everywhere but why don't we get an easy bust and do an old lady that hit the wrong key on her keyboard.

What if the 'wrong' plate belonged to a Lambo and the insurance company pocketed the windfall.

What a waste of tax payers money!
This.....!

Robertb

3,730 posts

265 months

Monday 20th April
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_Rodders_ said:
In two minds on that one. Rather draconian way of dealing with it but I've got some serious questions about her fitness to drive if she's unable to check the main details on the document when they were posted out. She will have had atleast 3 chances to spot the mistake.
It would be an easy thing to miss, as you 'see' the number as recognisable so your brain short-cuts and corrects the error. Its why its essential to get someone else to proof-read your own writing.



Dog Biscuit

2,349 posts

24 months

Monday 20th April
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Petty but maybe for the greater good...at 86 she's already a liability on the roads surely? smile

55palfers

6,329 posts

191 months

Monday 20th April
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Magistrate had the power to refer back to DVLA.
He just couldn't be arsed.

anonymous-user

81 months

Monday 20th April
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croyde said:
Fekin ridiculous. Shoplifters allowed to nick whatever they want. Fire anyone that tries to stop them.

Illegal E Motorbikes everywhere but why don't we get an easy bust and do an old lady that hit the wrong key on her keyboard.

What if the 'wrong' plate belonged to a Lambo and the insurance company pocketed the windfall.

What a waste of tax payers money!
What's the answer then? Anyone get's off scot free as long as they claim to entered the details of their Ferrari as a 1.0 Fiesta? At what age do you think the cut off should be.

it's an offence, she broke the law. Unwittingly maybe, but a percentage of people that speed dont intend to break the law, they just have a lapse. Maybe that should be a valid defense as well.

if you dont want to risk breaking the law take a bus.

BlackTails

3,464 posts

82 months

Monday 20th April
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55palfers said:
Magistrate had the power to refer back to DVLA.
He just couldn't be arsed.
Well,

“In the pensioner's case, David Pollard, a magistrate sitting at Teesside Magistrates' Court, opted to accept the written guilty plea and impose a conviction, rather than asking the DVLA to do further checks on the public interest in the prosecution.”

If he has a written guilty plea sitting on his desk in front of him, I reckon it would take quite a bit for him to become sufficiently arsed to reject that plea and send the DVLA off to do some homework.

55palfers

6,329 posts

191 months

Monday 20th April
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BlackTails said:
55palfers said:
Magistrate had the power to refer back to DVLA.
He just couldn't be arsed.
Well,

In the pensioner's case, David Pollard, a magistrate sitting at Teesside Magistrates' Court, opted to accept the written guilty plea and impose a conviction, rather than asking the DVLA to do further checks on the public interest in the prosecution.

If he has a written guilty plea sitting on his desk in front of him, I reckon it would take quite a bit for him to become sufficiently arsed to reject that plea and send the DVLA off to do some homework.
Mitigating circumstances not being investigated is an acceptable justice procedure.?

Defendant should have opted for jury trial

Cliftonite

8,722 posts

165 months

Monday 20th April
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Was her plight not worsened by a guilty plea?

One that Agtlaw could unravel for us in the blink of an eye?

shout


snuffy

12,966 posts

311 months

Monday 20th April
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How come the insurance company did not cross reference the reg number to the type of car?


snuffy

12,966 posts

311 months

Monday 20th April
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MB140 said:
croyde said:
Fekin ridiculous. Shoplifters allowed to nick whatever they want. Fire anyone that tries to stop them.

Illegal E Motorbikes everywhere but why don't we get an easy bust and do an old lady that hit the wrong key on her keyboard.

What if the 'wrong' plate belonged to a Lambo and the insurance company pocketed the windfall.

What a waste of tax payers money!
I ve got to say I agree. I find that utterly unpalatable, I realise the sentence is about as low as you can go but .

When we can t be arsed to prosecute much worst low life scumbags who are actually effecting honest citizens lives (assault, theft, domestic burglary etc etc then it seems wrong.

The law is about honesty, justice and protecting everyone. This just stinks.
The term "low hanging fruit" has never been more apt in this case.

People on here saying it's her own fault, I wonder if they'd be saying the same if it was their 86 year old mother?



Terminator X

20,126 posts

231 months

Monday 20th April
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86 year olds in the dock, a fine use of limited resources clap I can't think of anything else that I'd rather they spent their time on.

TX.

Terminator X

20,126 posts

231 months

Monday 20th April
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AbbeyNormal said:
croyde said:
Fekin ridiculous. Shoplifters allowed to nick whatever they want. Fire anyone that tries to stop them.

Illegal E Motorbikes everywhere but why don't we get an easy bust and do an old lady that hit the wrong key on her keyboard.

What if the 'wrong' plate belonged to a Lambo and the insurance company pocketed the windfall.

What a waste of tax payers money!
What's the answer then? Anyone get's off scot free as long as they claim to entered the details of their Ferrari as a 1.0 Fiesta? At what age do you think the cut off should be.

it's an offence, she broke the law. Unwittingly maybe, but a percentage of people that speed dont intend to break the law, they just have a lapse. Maybe that should be a valid defense as well.

if you dont want to risk breaking the law take a bus.
Lol she got a digit wrong on the paperwork so A123 XYZ instead of B123 XYZ.

TX.

768

20,097 posts

123 months

Monday 20th April
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croyde said:
Fekin ridiculous. Shoplifters allowed to nick whatever they want. Fire anyone that tries to stop them.

Illegal E Motorbikes everywhere but why don't we get an easy bust and do an old lady that hit the wrong key on her keyboard.

What if the 'wrong' plate belonged to a Lambo and the insurance company pocketed the windfall.

What a waste of tax payers money!
I'm inclined to agree, assuming she paid a reasonable amount, I can't imagine her insurance is normally particularly expensive.

Word seems to have gone around that you can just shoplift and get away with it, but that's apparently something we just have to put up with even though it's a much more confronting and costly crime.

CMTMB

1,540 posts

22 months

Monday 20th April
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AbbeyNormal said:
What's the answer then? Anyone get's off scot free as long as they claim to entered the details of their Ferrari as a 1.0 Fiesta?
Was the incorrect car insured? I thought the only thing incorrect was one letter of the number plate?