Blanket 20mph limit across England
Discussion
CoolHands said:
So is every change having a revised TRO then, is that how they do it? It s happening in road after road after road. I haven t seen any notices go up about potential changes to TROs if they need to when being changed (I don t know). I guess not.
It doesn t have to be one road, one TRO. Councils can carpet bomb an area with a TRO covering a batch of roads. The consultation/notice can be just a council legal notice rather than something obvious on every street.Here's an example https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2...
The whole of Oxon is crippled everywhere from what I've experienced just because the greenloons in Oxford wanted it for there.
The second you go over the border from Bucks, etc in a town with a 30 it drops with nary a warning.
You'd not know you'd just crossed the border in a couple villages as the only 20 signs I've seen are at the entrances.
I think the whole county must hate car owners to enact such a crazily low limit, especially without full "Black Spot" (etc...) justification and it's just a tidy little money maker!
The second you go over the border from Bucks, etc in a town with a 30 it drops with nary a warning.
You'd not know you'd just crossed the border in a couple villages as the only 20 signs I've seen are at the entrances.
I think the whole county must hate car owners to enact such a crazily low limit, especially without full "Black Spot" (etc...) justification and it's just a tidy little money maker!
Living on the edge of Oxfordshire, and driving within the county most of the time, I despair of the anti-car attitude the County Council has.
They spend huge sums of money on largely pointless 20mph limits (I admit a few are probably worthwhile, however most definitely aren’t) but the road surface is littered with potholes, cracks and sunken drains, and has been for months with no sign of even a temporary repair.
They spend huge sums of money on largely pointless 20mph limits (I admit a few are probably worthwhile, however most definitely aren’t) but the road surface is littered with potholes, cracks and sunken drains, and has been for months with no sign of even a temporary repair.
And yet, in sunny Essex, there's barely a twenty limit to be seen. We're suffering from the scourge of the vanishing national, however; lots of things that were national limit have now been changed, arbitrarily, to fifty or even forty. Nothing is actually enforced, though, least of all by the police.
ac.cobra said:
One scheme is to generate money from the motorists and the other is not to spend money.
Don't loose your hard earned money. You all know in which direction the country is moving.
Local highway authorities don't receive the money from speeding fines.Don't loose your hard earned money. You all know in which direction the country is moving.
If they did, I'm sure speed cameras would be even more prevalent.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15935039/EU...
"Radical road safety reforms being considered by the European Commission would require every new vehicle to be fitted with a device that limits engine power for anyone driving too fast."
One way to enforce that 20mph speed limit!
"Radical road safety reforms being considered by the European Commission would require every new vehicle to be fitted with a device that limits engine power for anyone driving too fast."
One way to enforce that 20mph speed limit!
Steve-B said:
The whole of Oxon is crippled everywhere from what I've experienced just because the greenloons in Oxford wanted it for there.
The second you go over the border from Bucks, etc in a town with a 30 it drops with nary a warning.
You'd not know you'd just crossed the border in a couple villages as the only 20 signs I've seen are at the entrances.
I think the whole county must hate car owners to enact such a crazily low limit, especially without full "Black Spot" (etc...) justification and it's just a tidy little money maker!
Or maybe it's because the survival rate of being hit by a car at 20mph is VASTLY better than 30mph?The second you go over the border from Bucks, etc in a town with a 30 it drops with nary a warning.
You'd not know you'd just crossed the border in a couple villages as the only 20 signs I've seen are at the entrances.
I think the whole county must hate car owners to enact such a crazily low limit, especially without full "Black Spot" (etc...) justification and it's just a tidy little money maker!
7 times less likely to die iirc.
On a motoring forum, surely people can see that because more and more people are driving like t
ts, we face more and more of this st.
On balance of those making the rules, do you really think there's more of them who want to drive slowly, no, they're being forced into this st, because on the whole the masses are thick s.
It's the same reason I can no longer have a peaceful wk, too many lazy arsed parents moaning that social media is parenting their kids. So now my porn is blocked.
I can't enjoy full fat coke with paying for it and having that annoying kid flapping about.
If you give up all your responsibility to behave, the government steps in!
ts, we face more and more of this st. On balance of those making the rules, do you really think there's more of them who want to drive slowly, no, they're being forced into this s
t, because on the whole the masses are thick s.It's the same reason I can no longer have a peaceful w
k, too many lazy arsed parents moaning that social media is parenting their kids. So now my porn is blocked. I can't enjoy full fat coke with paying for it and having that annoying kid flapping about.
If you give up all your responsibility to behave, the government steps in!
dundarach said:
On a motoring forum, surely people can see that because more and more people are driving like tts, we face more and more of this st.
On balance of those making the rules, do you really think there's more of them who want to drive slowly, no, they're being forced into this st, because on the whole the masses are thick s.
It's the same reason I can no longer have a peaceful wk, too many lazy arsed parents moaning that social media is parenting their kids. So now my porn is blocked.
I can't enjoy full fat coke with paying for it and having that annoying kid flapping about.
If you give up all your responsibility to behave, the government steps in!
Ah, you think we caused the problem and it's nothing to do with politics. Not sure I agree with you.ts, we face more and more of this st. On balance of those making the rules, do you really think there's more of them who want to drive slowly, no, they're being forced into this s
t, because on the whole the masses are thick s.It's the same reason I can no longer have a peaceful w
k, too many lazy arsed parents moaning that social media is parenting their kids. So now my porn is blocked. I can't enjoy full fat coke with paying for it and having that annoying kid flapping about.
If you give up all your responsibility to behave, the government steps in!
Tracklover said:
Steve-B said:
The whole of Oxon is crippled everywhere from what I've experienced just because the greenloons in Oxford wanted it for there.
The second you go over the border from Bucks, etc in a town with a 30 it drops with nary a warning.
You'd not know you'd just crossed the border in a couple villages as the only 20 signs I've seen are at the entrances.
I think the whole county must hate car owners to enact such a crazily low limit, especially without full "Black Spot" (etc...) justification and it's just a tidy little money maker!
Or maybe it's because the survival rate of being hit by a car at 20mph is VASTLY better than 30mph?The second you go over the border from Bucks, etc in a town with a 30 it drops with nary a warning.
You'd not know you'd just crossed the border in a couple villages as the only 20 signs I've seen are at the entrances.
I think the whole county must hate car owners to enact such a crazily low limit, especially without full "Black Spot" (etc...) justification and it's just a tidy little money maker!
7 times less likely to die iirc.
All this nonsense of people less likely to die if hit at 20 rather than 30. What are they doing in the road in the first place? What happened to the likes of the green cross code? Are people that thick that they can't teach their kids to cross the road at a pelican crossing?? How about banning J walking? Surely it would save millions of lives??
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