Webuyanycar speeding tickets

[ACCYSTAN]

Sold a car to we buy any car around 2 years ago.
Got Paid, all fine.

Today received a speeding ticket for the car in the post.

I will reply to speeding ticket that we sold it, but do I need to speak with anyone else to make sure I am off the records as the owner?

Also, I can’t find the receipt emails from webuyanycar - are they contactable to get this info as evidence?

Thanks

[I am alright Jack]

it's your responsibility to notify the DVLA when you sell a vehicle.

If for some reason you haven't done so then maybe contact them also.

https://www.gov.uk/sold-bought-vehicle

[Virtual PAH]

Yep, always inform DVLA online as soon after selling as possible and never rely on the purchaser to do it as WBAC say they will.

No reason to be left on the hook now it's all online and takes minutes.

I once got a letter about my car being abandoned untaxed, several months after I'd sold it, and back then informing DVLA was all done via post so I just gave them the info on who I sold it to and fortunately it was a dealer so easy for them to chase up. Never heard anymore about it. So worse case reply with the info and hope they go after the new owner.

[speedking31]

ACCYSTAN said:

I will reply to speeding ticket that we sold it, but do I need to speak with anyone else to make sure I am off the records as the owner?

The registered keeper is responsible not the owner.

[BertBert]

speedking31 said:

he registered keeper is responsible not the owner.

The keeper is responsible not the registered keeper

[speedking31]

The point I was making (trying to make) is that proving you sold a car, or having a receipt, does not absolve you of responsibility if the keeper details have not been changed. Not much point in chasing for a receipt as that is not directly relevant.

[Sheepshanks]

It’s a bit odd to get something after a couple of years - suggests it’s been in the trade all this time (they go back to the last known keeper) and never registered to another keeper.

[Ussrcossack]

Sheepshanks said:

It s a bit odd to get something after a couple of years - suggests it s been in the trade all this time (they go back to the last known keeper) and never registered to another keeper.

Agree
But if WBAC sold it wouldn't they update V5 for the new keeper or the trader who sold it on, unless its still in the trade

[paul_c123]

Ussrcossack said:

Agree
But if WBAC sold it wouldn't they update V5 for the new keeper or the trader who sold it on, unless its still in the trade

No it will be a BCA auction and trade-to-trade changes aren’t reported to the DVLA. Only a new RK. It was probably bought at auction by a trader and he has neglected to register it.

[Sheepshanks]

speedking31 said:

The point I was making (trying to make) is that proving you sold a car, or having a receipt, does not absolve you of responsibility if the keeper details have not been changed. Not much point in chasing for a receipt as that is not directly relevant.

It does - if the car is sold into the trade the registered keeper doesn’t change.

Ideally the OP would have updated the V5C himself and would have looked out for the acknowledgment from DVLA as it tells you to do on the V5C. It also tells you to chase it up if not received in 4 weeks. Also ideally, he would still have this acknowledgment.

Multiple times car salespeople have tried to take the complete V5C off me, telling me I “can forget all about it now”. You really shouldn’t do that.

[Foss62]

Sheepshanks said:

It does - if the car is sold into the trade the registered keeper doesn t change.

Ideally the OP would have updated the V5C himself and would have looked out for the acknowledgment from DVLA as it tells you to do on the V5C. It also tells you to chase it up if not received in 4 weeks. Also ideally, he would still have this acknowledgment.

Multiple times car salespeople have tried to take the complete V5C off me, telling me I can forget all about it now . You really shouldn t do that.

All happened online when I recently sold a car via CARWOW. The chap picking the car up checked that I had the confirmation email before leaving.

[paul_c123]

Sheepshanks said:

It does - if the car is sold into the trade the registered keeper doesn t change.

Ideally the OP would have updated the V5C himself and would have looked out for the acknowledgment from DVLA as it tells you to do on the V5C. It also tells you to chase it up if not received in 4 weeks. Also ideally, he would still have this acknowledgment.

Multiple times car salespeople have tried to take the complete V5C off me, telling me I can forget all about it now . You really shouldn t do that.

All you need is the reg number, 11 digit reference number and the name of the trader to do it yourself. Personally, I always make a point of sitting down for a "bit of admin", sorting out money transfer, making sure they receive it, and doing the DVLA process online with them, so they don't need to do it and have the email off of DVLA.

But yes technically, it is 100% the seller's responsibility.

[Sheepshanks]

ACCYSTAN said:

Also, I can t find the receipt emails from webuyanycar - are they contactable to get this info as evidence?

They surely must be able to provide transaction records from just a couple of years ago.

Did you get a tax refund at the time? If you did, then you can be sure the V5C notification happened.

[ACCYSTAN]

Good afternoon

First of thank you for all the replies, it’s appreciated

When I sold the car to WBAC they guy stated they do all the change of owner stuff , your right I should have done it
This is still there policy, I called into the branch earlier and this is what the guy told me is their default position.

I can’t do it now via DVLA as I don’t have the V5 with the unique code

I have taken a screenshot of the bank account payment from WBAC - sadly it doesn’t reference the reg but at least it’s something

WBAC haven’t replied yet but they did send an apology email for taking so long

The car has been MOT twice since I sold it.
Interestingly, on both occasions the MOT happened 2 months after the previous one had ran out.

The car is currently taxed - which suggests it’s not in the trade?

Can the police and DVLA use the insurance database to see who if anyone has it insured? Is that not the most relevant and fastest way to discover the latest owner/keeper?

A vehicle check does show that I am the owner-
V5C Issue Date 16 October 2021
That was when I purchased it

This is my plan for next week

Awaiting the reply from WBAC, get copy of invoice

Write letter to DVLA with evidence, not sure what department to direct it to but will send it to the general mail address by recorded delivery

Send copy of dvla letter and invoice in reply to police speeding fine


Does that seem a logical and practical response to try and close this issue out?

[loskie]

NEVER EVER trust anyone else to do the V5C change of keeper for you.


Why do people keep doing this?
How stupid do they have to be.


Then it's someone else's fault.


It's so simple.
Online
Post

[Sheepshanks]

ACCYSTAN said:

The car is currently taxed - which suggests it s not in the trade?

It can be taxed on the new keeper slip but then the keeper not be changed. That's not supposed to happen, but no idea if it gets picked up.

ACCYSTAN said:

Can the police and DVLA use the insurance database to see who if anyone has it insured? Is that not the most relevant and fastest way to discover the latest owner/keeper?

You could look at that yourself, although a trader could have added it to their policy.


It's likely all fine for you - have you tried contacting DVLA? I did by online chat a while ago when the V5 for a new car didn't arrive - whoever I was talking to was helpful enough.

[ACCYSTAN]

How can I look at the insurance database?

Surely i can only get confirmation it’s insured

Details of the person must only be available to the insurer and the police?

[Sheepshanks]

ACCYSTAN said:

How can I look at the insurance database?

Surely i can only get confirmation it s insured

Details of the person must only be available to the insurer and the police?

You (as an individual) can only see a yes/no. 'No' would be somewhat reassuring, but 'yes' doesn't mean much to you.

Even if you could see the policyholder there's not much you can do with that info, unless you intend to go round there and have a word.

[ACCYSTAN]

loskie said:

NEVER EVER trust anyone else to do the V5C change of keeper for you.


Why do people keep doing this?
How stupid do they have to be.


Then it's someone else's fault.


It's so simple.
Online
Post

Yes , I agree

But we are talking about the biggest purchaser of cars in the UK
If they can’t do admin then we are screwed

[E-bmw]

loskie said:

NEVER EVER trust anyone else to do the V5C change of keeper for you.


Why do people keep doing this?
How stupid do they have to be.


Then it's someone else's fault.


It's so simple.
Online
Post

100% all day every day, go online while in the branch & do it there & then, just because they say they will do it does not absolve the current keeper of their duties.