Lynda La Plante - Speeding Fines
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it seems that Lynda has picked up 3 speeding fines in 5 months, all at under 30 mph in 20 limits. Apparently she also spent 25 minutes trying to speak with an advisor only to find that they didn’t speak English. Anyway she’s taking on the Met Police in Court.
Sorry about the paywall though there are ways around.
http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/2490/r...
Sorry about the paywall though there are ways around.
http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/2490/r...
bad company said:
it seems that Lynda has picked up 3 speeding fines in 5 months, all at under 30 mph in 20 limits. Apparently she also spent 25 minutes trying to speak with an advisor only to find that they didn t speak English. Anyway she's taking on the Met Police in Court.
Sorry about the paywall though there are ways around.
http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/2490/r...
And a Met Police worker was quoted as saying that, if convicted, "LaPlante would have at least 12 penalty points on her licence, putting her in line for an automatic 6 month disqualification." Surely just 3 points each, unless she has 'previous', which is perhaps why she wasn't offered (or was she?) a SAC.Sorry about the paywall though there are ways around.
http://digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/2490/r...
Time to call celebrity lawyer Nick Freeman ("Mr Loophole").
" La Plante pleaded guilty and wrote: “I wish to dispute this offence on the basis that the signage warning motorists of a 20mph speed limit is only 10-15 paces from a 30mph zone, "
But isn't that how ALL 20mph zones work!!!
I've never seen a 29mph zone or a 28...27...etc
One second you can do 30, the next second (the thickness of the signpost) you can only do 20. That's life!
I think she should stick to writing crime dramas rather than trying to dramatise her own crime.
But isn't that how ALL 20mph zones work!!!
I've never seen a 29mph zone or a 28...27...etc
One second you can do 30, the next second (the thickness of the signpost) you can only do 20. That's life!
I think she should stick to writing crime dramas rather than trying to dramatise her own crime.
Her defence seems quite hopeless, but IANAL.
She doesn t dispute the limit or her awareness of it, only the fairness (which isn t a concept in prosecution) of situating what is presumably a static camera so close to the start of the limit, and also that it s downhill.
Whilst most people probably haven t decelerated to 20mph at the start of the limit, everyone knows you re supposed to and if it s a road you re travelling regularly enough to be acutely aware of a static camera, or even a regularly witnessed mobile one, then you do in fact have to get down to 20mph at the signs. Every single time.
She doesn t dispute the limit or her awareness of it, only the fairness (which isn t a concept in prosecution) of situating what is presumably a static camera so close to the start of the limit, and also that it s downhill.
Whilst most people probably haven t decelerated to 20mph at the start of the limit, everyone knows you re supposed to and if it s a road you re travelling regularly enough to be acutely aware of a static camera, or even a regularly witnessed mobile one, then you do in fact have to get down to 20mph at the signs. Every single time.
La Plant s reasoning seems to show she is very confused about the traffic regulations for which, as a driver, she should be familiar.
She would benefit from a speed awareness course. Perhaps the confused, elderly drivers of both genders, should be given the opportunity to pay for these on a voluntary basis before they get themselves into trouble.
With the attitude and reasoning displayed, there should be a facility for the police to immediately suspend licences for this type of confused pensioner.
Good luck Lynda.
She would benefit from a speed awareness course. Perhaps the confused, elderly drivers of both genders, should be given the opportunity to pay for these on a voluntary basis before they get themselves into trouble.
With the attitude and reasoning displayed, there should be a facility for the police to immediately suspend licences for this type of confused pensioner.
Good luck Lynda.
I didn't read the OPs link, opting to Google for another source where she's complaining that there's only ten seconds between entering the 20 limit and the camera. Even if she entered at 30 and THEN started decelerating, that means 10 seconds to slow to 20, or 1mph per second. Does she take an entire half minute to accelerate to 30mph?
It's been a while since I've been to Kingston, I remember Kingston Hill isn't particularly steep but is very long so in many cars you'll need to ensure a low gear and/or keep using the brakes, but that's just part of the skill of driving. Given her advanced years she would have learned to drive in the era of manual chokes and inflexible engines so. This shouldn't vex her. My theory is that she just couldn't be arsed to pay attention and is now trying to deal with the fallout.
Where are the speed cameras?
It's been a while since I've been to Kingston, I remember Kingston Hill isn't particularly steep but is very long so in many cars you'll need to ensure a low gear and/or keep using the brakes, but that's just part of the skill of driving. Given her advanced years she would have learned to drive in the era of manual chokes and inflexible engines so. This shouldn't vex her. My theory is that she just couldn't be arsed to pay attention and is now trying to deal with the fallout.
Where are the speed cameras?
poo at Paul's said:
20 limits are uttelrly ridiculous in virtually all circumstances I ve encountered.
The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
you just know that there's going to be somebody wombling in to disagree with that statement The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
DodgyGeezer said:
poo at Paul's said:
20 limits are uttelrly ridiculous in virtually all circumstances I ve encountered.
The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
you just know that there's going to be somebody wombling in to disagree with that statement The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
Yellow Lizud said:
DodgyGeezer said:
poo at Paul's said:
20 limits are uttelrly ridiculous in virtually all circumstances I ve encountered.
The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
you just know that there's going to be somebody wombling in to disagree with that statement The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
bad company said:
Yellow Lizud said:
DodgyGeezer said:
poo at Paul's said:
20 limits are uttelrly ridiculous in virtually all circumstances I ve encountered.
The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
you just know that there's going to be somebody wombling in to disagree with that statement The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
Not
wazztie16 said:
bad company said:
Yellow Lizud said:
DodgyGeezer said:
poo at Paul's said:
20 limits are uttelrly ridiculous in virtually all circumstances I ve encountered.
The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
you just know that there's going to be somebody wombling in to disagree with that statement The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
Not
20mph in London is a PITA if you need to travel across a large swathe of London. It takes ages.
When the 20mph limit changes to 30mph or 40mph, the vehicles in front are still doing 20mph...
Sometimes the 20mph limit is nice - you're travelling at a far slower pace and you see more of the urban environment. It also removes the competitiveness from a lot of drivers and makes driving "nicer". As a pedestrian, the slow down makes walking more pleasant as there is less engine, traffic noise and vehicles are approaching you at a slower pace.
vikingaero said:
wazztie16 said:
bad company said:
Yellow Lizud said:
DodgyGeezer said:
poo at Paul's said:
20 limits are uttelrly ridiculous in virtually all circumstances I ve encountered.
The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
you just know that there's going to be somebody wombling in to disagree with that statement The more introduced the more the country is literally being made to grind to a halt.
Short sighted, backward nonsense.
Not
20mph in London is a PITA if you need to travel across a large swathe of London. It takes ages.
When the 20mph limit changes to 30mph or 40mph, the vehicles in front are still doing 20mph...
Sometimes the 20mph limit is nice - you're travelling at a far slower pace and you see more of the urban environment. It also removes the competitiveness from a lot of drivers and makes driving "nicer". As a pedestrian, the slow down makes walking more pleasant as there is less engine, traffic noise and vehicles are approaching you at a slower pace.
Its the reduced road space, too many signs and restrictions that confuse drivers, emphasis on pedestrians and cyclists which f
ks traffic light phasing.Reduced parking , roads closed to vehicles so everything has to use main roads, even for short journeys.
Deliberately f
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