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Andy Bell

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333 posts

168 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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Just been playing with Vbox stuff and wondering if anyone has gone through fun of this before Caterham wise - in particular making a scene look a bit 'Caterham' esque. I used some of the base dials (black chrome) and dont look too bad but was hoping someone had gone to trouble of creating Caterham elements. Spent a few hours last night watching alot of videos of people with Caterhams and others and nicked some ideas too.

EFA

1,670 posts

292 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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We really need a GoogleTwit here to explain.....

Andy Bell

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333 posts

168 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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Ah good point guess it doesnt make any sense to anyone that doesnt have one. A VBox Lite http://www.videovbox.co.uk/index.php/en/component/... captures footage from cameras/other inputs and allows you to create a scene.

A scene is just an overlay on top of the video which allows you to do something like http://i2.createsend1.com/ei/r/85/CC1/5A7/005113/i... and ideally if anyone has the caterham dials etc.. already done they can easily be exported. I got it already plumbed into the car so spending time trying to make it all look good with a (hopeful) Caterham twist.

Edited by Andy Bell on Monday 11th March 17:30

DCL

1,228 posts

208 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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Andy, I'm sure you've seen the ones I made( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Qo-eX95c0 ). I lost the scene but you're welcome to the .png files if you want them. I just took photos of the dials, needles, and graphics then used photoshop to cut them out and save them in the right size and format. It's great fun but once the novelty wears off you'll find less is more. I also found micro module didn't work very reliably.


Andy Bell

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333 posts

168 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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DCL said:
I also found micro module didn't work very reliably.
interesting indeed not really had a chance (short of two runs) to have a look at it as yet. Interesting you say less=more as I guess natural thinking is to put it all on then you realise its overcrowded.

Andy Bell

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333 posts

168 months

Monday 11th March 2013
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just watched some more of your footage and looks like dials on R400 (white with black) are very different than academy based cars which are black dials with white!

DCL

1,228 posts

208 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Andy Bell said:
just watched some more of your footage and looks like dials on R400 (white with black) are very different than academy based cars which are black dials with white!
They're silver - the Caterham sales team got me at a weak moment! Standard are black and I'm still not sure about whether I like them or not.

framerateuk

2,934 posts

213 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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DCL said:
Andy, I'm sure you've seen the ones I made( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Qo-eX95c0 ). I lost the scene but you're welcome to the .png files if you want them. I just took photos of the dials, needles, and graphics then used photoshop to cut them out and save them in the right size and format. It's great fun but once the novelty wears off you'll find less is more. I also found micro module didn't work very reliably.
I have to say, that was a fantastic video to watch!

I really enjoyed seeing the brake and throttle meters, especially when you were taking it easy on the first lap - and then seeing the difference when you gave it full throttle afterwards!

Great battle with the Atom too! You didn't make it easy for him, he obviously had the legs in the straights though.

Anyone used something like http://racerender.com?
Seems a good way of combining your existing camera with an external logging device.

LostCroc

132 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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framerateuk said:
Anyone used something like http://racerender.com?
Seems a good way of combining your existing camera with an external logging device.
I use RaceRender regularly to combine multiple cameras (Sony/GoPro/Drift/MD12/POV/etc) with data from my GPS logger. An example is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detail...

It also allows multiple cameras to be merged - like this one where a few of us were debating lines at our local track and we wanted to see who had the fastest line in each corner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detail...

Dashware is a similar software option except can only handle 1 video input to merge with data whereas RaceRender handles multiple video inputs and data (e.g. 6 videos and 1 data feed in my example above)


framerateuk

2,934 posts

213 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Thanks very much for the links, that's exactly the sort of thing I was looking for! Looks like it would work pretty well with a GPS log from Trackmaster on my Android (with a decent external GPS module).

LostCroc

132 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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Yes - from recollection Trackmaster will export a CSV file which is happily accepted by RaceRender for combining with video. I use a Racechrono Touchsreen bluetoothed with a separate QStarz GSP module to get my data - similar to you.

Edited by LostCroc on Tuesday 12th March 20:45

jeffw

845 posts

257 months

Tuesday 12th March 2013
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This is my Race Technology equivalent, using a 1080p camera with data-overlay. Make sure you up the resolution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENUTt6vE9QA&lis...

Andy Bell

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333 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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looking really good jeff the racelogic/vbox suffers from interlacing that I need to post process (think they say use VLC) but I just find any of the overlay absolutely fascinating as it puts some real context as to what is happenning during a drive.

Edited by Andy Bell on Wednesday 13th March 14:46

DCL

1,228 posts

208 months

Wednesday 13th March 2013
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Andy Bell said:
looking really good jeff the racelogic/vbox suffers from interlacing that I need to post process (think they say use VLC) but I just find any of the overlay absolutely fascinating as it puts some real context as to what is happenning during a drive.

Edited by Andy Bell on Wednesday 13th March 14:46
VLC works but youtube does a better job at sorting it out. Vbox interlace technology is really out of dated now and there are some cracking HD camera about, although the rolling shutter types can be a bit wobbly. It won't be long before fully shuttered broadcast technology reaches the domestic market.

JeffW that video is real class by the way

jeffw

845 posts

257 months

Friday 15th March 2013
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I need to remove the central mirror for a better view. The camera is a 1080p bullet and I'm using a DL1 datalogger which now allows full 1080p with overlays using the new 8.5 version of Race Technologies software.

The video is of a charity day last year at Snetterton with my son (James, 14) out on track for the first time. The car is a Supercharged Zetec engined Phoenix so 330-340BHP with 630Kg.