The Lotus 7 S4
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Smollet

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16,376 posts

219 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Shouldn't that be discussed on the Lotus forum?
As far as I'm aware Caterham never took up the option to make a copy of this model.

kenny.R400

1,212 posts

269 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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You know what..........I've a feeling they did, very early on.tongue out

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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They absolutely did. The very first Caterhams were 4s.

framerateuk

2,934 posts

213 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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I think it's more appropriate to discuss it here.

It has far more in common with the Caterham Seven than anything that's discussed over in the Lotus section.

mickrick

3,759 posts

202 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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The first Caterhams where series 4.
Besides, it´s much more interesting than "what colour should I paint my Seven/wheels" threads... rolleyes

Smollet

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219 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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I stand corrected. You learn something every day. As my question has been answered perhaps the thread can closed as even though I started it I can't close it.

Edited by Smollet on Thursday 6th June 21:41

Toaster

2,940 posts

222 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Smollet said:
Shouldn't that be discussed on the Lotus forum?
As far as I'm aware Caterham never took up the option to make a copy of this model.

As Eric Mc says yes they did

http://www.caterham.co.uk/assets/html/about/herita...

Also why the current 40 year celebration model is to me a bit odd (as its not 40 years of the 7 but of Caterham acquiring the rights for the 7 as Caterham cars history is a lot older)

Golf Juliet Tang

87 posts

216 months

Friday 7th June 2013
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Smollet said:
As far as I'm aware Caterham never took up the option to make a copy of this model.
Well, they just made real S4s, but not many of them (38 apparently). They were not copies, nor were the Series 3s produced subsequently copies, they were real Series 3s produced from the original drawings, designs and specifications. They just had a different (Lotus designed) badge on the front.
Subsequently the car was developed.
Only other people make copies.

Smollet

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16,376 posts

219 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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Golf Juliet Tang said:
Well, they just made real S4s, but not many of them (38 apparently). They were not copies, nor were the Series 3s produced subsequently copies, they were real Series 3s produced from the original drawings, designs and specifications. They just had a different (Lotus designed) badge on the front.
Subsequently the car was developed.
Only other people make copies.
True. Copies was not the correct term but I think the gist of what I meant was clear. I wonder if Caterham have ever thought about reintroducing the S4?

Kghaas

173 posts

180 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Smollet said:
True. Copies was not the correct term but I think the gist of what I meant was clear. I wonder if Caterham have ever thought about reintroducing the S4?
Reintroduction? Come on, no one likes the S4 unless they own one smile
As it happens I am one of them, and mine was actually built at Caterham. Now it is getting rebuilt in my garage...

TeflonT

1,670 posts

292 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I believe Caterham gave the rights to make the S4 to someone else.....

Batwing 7

63 posts

166 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Someone told me that Redline had the rights to the S4. I wouldn't be surprised if Caterham had moved to get the S4 assets off the books. I'm not sure what condition the jigs etc are in though as the top arms I bought don't line up with each other...







Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Caterham's original plan was to manufacture the S4 as that as the current production model of the 7 when they acquired the rights from Lotus. However, they soon found that the cost of building the S4 made it marginal economically.

When they discovered that windscreen supplier did not want to produce windscreen surrounds in small quantities, they decided that perhaps the older S3 design would be a better bet. They had been getting constant enquiries from potential customers for the S3 so the decision was almost made for them. They also discovered that the component suppliers (Arch etc) were still in possession of the S3 chassis jigs so in modern parlance, it was a "no brainer".
The S4 was dropped and the S3 put back into production.

HolbaySS

45 posts

161 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Anyway the series 4 is actually a Lotus type 60tongue out