Would a 3070ti be limited by a 6700k and ddr3 at 1440
Would a 3070ti be limited by a 6700k and ddr3 at 1440
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gotoPzero

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20,701 posts

218 months

Monday 7th September
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Anyone got an experience of this set up?

I currently have
i7 6700k @4.3
32gb ram (DDR4) (edit to DDR4)
1070ti

Its struggling with most games now.

I have 2 x 1440 monitors.

I know I should probably bite the bullet and get a new machine as its 10+ years old now. It came with a 970 and I upgraded to a 1070ti after a few years when they were cheap and its done ok until the last year or so.

Edited by gotoPzero on Tuesday 8th September 14:24

Jinx

12,019 posts

289 months

Monday 7th September
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Depends on the game - but you will still get better fps and you'll be able to turn up more of the eye candy.

Lucas Ayde

4,156 posts

197 months

Tuesday 8th September
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You probably wouldn't be able to extract the full performance from the 3070Ti but it would still give you a big boost for more detail and higher resolutions - plus some nice perks like DLSS and Ray Tracing.

And the beauty of the PC architecture is that you can upgrade the CPU/mobo side of things in the future to fully realise the potential of the GPU.

gotoPzero

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Tuesday 8th September
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Thanks. I went for a 3070 rather than the 3070ti in the end.

Hopefully will be ok - my thinking was the 8GB of ram would be the limiting factor for both with more modern stuff.

Will think about a mobo upgrade at some point.

gotoPzero

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Tuesday 8th September
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Also realised I have ddr4 too.

Lucas Ayde

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197 months

Wednesday 9th September
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gotoPzero said:
Also realised I have ddr4 too.
You could upgrade to a Ryzen 5 series and keep the ram to re-use with it. AMD are even re-releasing the 5800X3D and pretty sure you can still buy new AM4 mobos. Or go for secondhand, likely lots of choice.

I started my current desktop PC with a i7-6700 and 1060,then went to a Ryzen 3700X (keeping the memory and disk storage) with the same 1060 .. Shortly afterward swapped out to a 3070 then upgraded the CPU to a Ryzen 5900X on the same mobo and finally went to a 4070 which is where I currently am with no plans to upgrade depite the config being a few years old now.

I mostly use my Steam Machine for gaming (on the TV) now and the desktop PC only really gets used for PCVR titles. I'll still occasionally stream from it via Moonlight to the TV for some demanding AAA games or even use GeForce Now. 90%+ of the gaming time is with the 'underpowered' Steam Machine though so IMO you don't really need the latest and greatest.

I would not be surprised if the next big trend in the PC gaming scene is devs optimising their games to actually use hardware efficiently instead of just assuming everyone is going to be buying beefier CPUs and GPUs. Even quite low-mid level hardware is very capable if properly used.



gotoPzero

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20,701 posts

218 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Yeah kind of my thoughts. I bought this machine new in 2016 and its served me well. But like you say the ram is still capable.
A new mobo and CPU would probably see me through another 5 years at the rate I am going with the "new" graphics card.

I am stuck on Win10 too with the 6700 so going to Windows 11 might be worthwhile too for the long run.

Will see how this new card goes first - then think about what to do next.

captain_cynic

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124 months

Wednesday 9th September
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My last gaming box was a Ryzen5 5600x with a 3070 (non Ti) and the main thing holding me back then was the CPU. I've recently upgraded to a Ryzen 7 7800x3D and it's a world of difference with the same video card and SSDs (went from 24 GB of DDR4 to 32 of DDR5).

I think a CPU from 10 years ago would definitely be a limiting factor.

Dave Hedgehog

16,328 posts

233 months

Monday 14th September
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captain_cynic said:
32 of DDR5
well look at Mr Moneybags!

gotoPzero

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Monday 14th September
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Just an update and after a little advice, I have now installed the 3070.

Having 2 problems.

First is on boot - it sometimes boots ok other times I get an error "windows failed to start".

Second is my fans are all running flat out. Even when the machine is at idle.

I checked system usage just in case it was doing something and nope its just the fans on max for some reason/.

Digger

16,837 posts

220 months

Monday 14th September
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You don't state which fans, but for starters assuming one of them is the CPU cooler fan, I'd boot in to the BIOS & check all the fan profile settings within as this should be controllable.

If GPU related then check the Nvidia driver app, similar to the above . . .


As above Fan Control is a good app, but maybe try the above first before installing additional software?

MSI Afterburner app can also be used to control Nvidia GPU fans.


I'm not the best at Boot issues, but might be an SSD that is starting to fail ?

Jinx

12,019 posts

289 months

Monday 14th September
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gotoPzero said:
Just an update and after a little advice, I have now installed the 3070.

Having 2 problems.

First is on boot - it sometimes boots ok other times I get an error "windows failed to start".

Second is my fans are all running flat out. Even when the machine is at idle.

I checked system usage just in case it was doing something and nope its just the fans on max for some reason/.
Use DDU to remove the old drivers and install newer ones (your 1070Ti would have been on the old nvidia drivers). As it sounds like a driver conflict issue. Also double check the power cables to the GPU are plugged all the way in.

gotoPzero

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Monday 14th September
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Cheers will try that tomorrow.

Re the fans its the case fans. I had a look in the BIOS and it does allow me to set to "normal" from "max" and they all calm down but as soon as I reboot they go back to max.

I tried the software posted above and it says fan speed controllers are not available or something like that. They were fine until new gfx card.

I will get the case lid off again tomorrow and see if I nudged something (dont think so)

captain_cynic

17,306 posts

124 months

Monday 14th September
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gotoPzero said:
Cheers will try that tomorrow.

Re the fans its the case fans. I had a look in the BIOS and it does allow me to set to "normal" from "max" and they all calm down but as soon as I reboot they go back to max.

I tried the software posted above and it says fan speed controllers are not available or something like that. They were fine until new gfx card.

I will get the case lid off again tomorrow and see if I nudged something (dont think so)
Also might be worth checking what temp your CPU/Mobo are reporting.

gotoPzero

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218 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Weirdly today it booted fine and also fans working fine. They are defo running differently to before - more reactive but that might be the fan software above.

Given I am likely to change CPU and MOBO at some point I think I will see how it goes from here. A quick test in beamng shows c.70fps where as with the 1070ti I was at 30 ish.

Will try bodycam later for the newer gfx stuff.