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jetbox said:
Is the leap to full frame a significant improvement in quality?
FF claimed lower noise but crop sensors have come on so much it doesn't seem to be an issue now. FF has benefits in wide angle and shallow depth of field, but disadvantages in that lenses are generally heavier and more expensive than ones designed to fit a crop sensor. In addition a crop sensor will give you a 'longer' lens for the same focal length - with Nikon for example the crop factor is 1.5, so a 300mm lens on a D500 will give you the same field of view as a 450mm lens on a D750. I'd say that would be handy for motorsport.So.....
Canon 80D - If you ignored Sony, this would be choice for Video work, with its smooth Dual Pixel Video autofocus and touch screen. Unfortunately Sony has *completely* outpaced Canon on Video Kit recently, the A6300 offers much much more, better frames rates, better resolution, better autofocus, better focus tools like focus peaking in the viewfinder.
Nikon D750 - possibly the best Amateur Full frame camera available at this time
Nikon D750 + 14-24 F2.8 is a killer landscape/astro combo. Nikon D750+ Nikon 85mm 1.8 is amazing portrait combo.
Not as good as motor sport due to lower fps, lower pixel density and AA filter. Autofocus is probably good enough but not as good as D500. You will need a bigger heavier more expensive lens than the D500 to get the same image.
- if you are comparing full frame cameras then you think about the Canon 5D Mk3 as well, the Mk4 is likely to be released this September and Mk3 values will drop like a stone if it is a slam dunk.
Nikon D500 - the best Crop camera available at the moment, I tried one in the field and the autofocus is amazing. D500 + 300mm PF f4 lens is probably the lightest, fastest shooting combo available from any company, no one has a answer to it.
Crop cameras are sub par at landscapes. Mainly due to the lenses, its harder to make a wide fast crop lens. Tokina's 11-16 f2.8 is a good lens, but is beaten by the D750 with a 14-24 f2.5. If you want astro, D500 + tokina 11-16 is just borderline for astro landscapes.
Basically, the Nikon D750 will do an excellent job at landscapes, and and ok one at motorsport.
The D500 will be stunnning at landscapes, and mediocre at landscapes.
So the question is where do you want your focus to be ? The closest thing to one camera to rule them all is the D810, which does high iso, high pixel density and good autofocus ( although frame rate is poor )
Canon 80D - If you ignored Sony, this would be choice for Video work, with its smooth Dual Pixel Video autofocus and touch screen. Unfortunately Sony has *completely* outpaced Canon on Video Kit recently, the A6300 offers much much more, better frames rates, better resolution, better autofocus, better focus tools like focus peaking in the viewfinder.
Nikon D750 - possibly the best Amateur Full frame camera available at this time
Nikon D750 + 14-24 F2.8 is a killer landscape/astro combo. Nikon D750+ Nikon 85mm 1.8 is amazing portrait combo.
Not as good as motor sport due to lower fps, lower pixel density and AA filter. Autofocus is probably good enough but not as good as D500. You will need a bigger heavier more expensive lens than the D500 to get the same image.
- if you are comparing full frame cameras then you think about the Canon 5D Mk3 as well, the Mk4 is likely to be released this September and Mk3 values will drop like a stone if it is a slam dunk.
Nikon D500 - the best Crop camera available at the moment, I tried one in the field and the autofocus is amazing. D500 + 300mm PF f4 lens is probably the lightest, fastest shooting combo available from any company, no one has a answer to it.
Crop cameras are sub par at landscapes. Mainly due to the lenses, its harder to make a wide fast crop lens. Tokina's 11-16 f2.8 is a good lens, but is beaten by the D750 with a 14-24 f2.5. If you want astro, D500 + tokina 11-16 is just borderline for astro landscapes.
Basically, the Nikon D750 will do an excellent job at landscapes, and and ok one at motorsport.
The D500 will be stunnning at landscapes, and mediocre at landscapes.
So the question is where do you want your focus to be ? The closest thing to one camera to rule them all is the D810, which does high iso, high pixel density and good autofocus ( although frame rate is poor )
GetCarter said:
RobinOakapple said:
Simpo Two said:
RobinOakapple said:
And, generally speaking, if it's a choice between Nikon and Canon, then the answer is Canon.
Why's that then?
(Well it's been AGES since I've read that!)
Similar threads often appear in the HG&DIY section. e.g."Which is the best cordless drill for the money?"
that will be Makita btw
singlecoil said:
GetCarter said:
RobinOakapple said:
Simpo Two said:
RobinOakapple said:
And, generally speaking, if it's a choice between Nikon and Canon, then the answer is Canon.
Why's that then?(Well it's been AGES since I've read that!)
Similar threads often appear in the HG&DIY section. e.g."Which is the best cordless drill for the money?"
that will be Makita btw
jetbox said:
Thanks for all the replies, they have reinforced my dilemma in that they are all good at some aspects.
The best answer on the Canon/Nikon debate is to go and handle both of them and see which one you like the feel of and has the controls you want in the places you want them. I can work a Nikon by feel, but a Canon utterly bewilders me. So, off to the shops with you!GetCarter said:
singlecoil said:
GetCarter said:
RobinOakapple said:
Simpo Two said:
RobinOakapple said:
And, generally speaking, if it's a choice between Nikon and Canon, then the answer is Canon.
Why's that then?(Well it's been AGES since I've read that!)
Similar threads often appear in the HG&DIY section. e.g."Which is the best cordless drill for the money?"
that will be Makita btw
Did we learn anything new there?
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