3D Camcorder archiving/editing help
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A couple of years ago I purchased a Sony HDR-TD30 3D camcorder. I now have half a dozen SDHC cards full of 3d data which I would like to archive and clear. I have copied the data directly onto my PC, but when I have played this it appears to have saved in 2D. Can anyone please advise on why this is no longer in 3D?
Secondly, I wish to edit some of the footage and wondered which software is best suited to my needs.
Secondly, I wish to edit some of the footage and wondered which software is best suited to my needs.
It might not be the actual files on your computer that are at fault, though don't delete the original files on your SD cards just yet.
What software are you using to view the files. I mention this because I was emailed a 3D PDF file last year which I couldn't view/rotate properly and could only view in 2D until I updated the software on my Mac.
What software are you using to view the files. I mention this because I was emailed a 3D PDF file last year which I couldn't view/rotate properly and could only view in 2D until I updated the software on my Mac.
I copied the SD card files onto my laptop hard drive, then copied a couple of the files onto a USB stick which I then plugged into my 3D Smart TV, when viewed the image was in 2D.
I usually plug the SD card into my bluray recorder to view the files in 3D on the TV.
But I was hoping to copy the files and free up the SD cards for future recordings. Until I can find a resolution I am keeping the data on the SD card.
I usually plug the SD card into my bluray recorder to view the files in 3D on the TV.
But I was hoping to copy the files and free up the SD cards for future recordings. Until I can find a resolution I am keeping the data on the SD card.
FurtiveFreddy said:
What is the file extension of the video files you are trying to copy?
Did you copy the entire contents of the SD card to the computer or just individual files?
The file extension is MTS.Did you copy the entire contents of the SD card to the computer or just individual files?
I copy and pasted the entire contents of the SD card onto the 'My Videos' folder on my laptop.
dudleybloke said:
Thanks for that. I have now enlisted the assistance of my stepson who is more IT savvy than me. We have managed to find Sony Play Memories Home and plugged the camcorder into the laptop. The files here are showing as M2TSYes, you need the MTS files from the camcorder SD card. They will be in 3D.
Where did the M2TS files come from?
What about the card you are putting into the TV which then plays in 2D? Does the filestructure and filenames all match the camcorder SD card?
There are various folders used to store video files within the AVCHD standard and some can be proxy files, so you need to duplicate the original structure.
Also, the software you use may carry out file conversions when it copies files to and from the SD card to the PC etc.
Where did the M2TS files come from?
What about the card you are putting into the TV which then plays in 2D? Does the filestructure and filenames all match the camcorder SD card?
There are various folders used to store video files within the AVCHD standard and some can be proxy files, so you need to duplicate the original structure.
Also, the software you use may carry out file conversions when it copies files to and from the SD card to the PC etc.
Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Saturday 20th August 15:01
FurtiveFreddy said:
Yes, you need the MTS files from the camcorder SD card. They will be in 3D.
Where did the M2TS files come from?
What about the card you are putting into the TV which then plays in 2D? Does the filestructure and filenames all match the camcorder SD card?
There are various folders used to store video files within the AVCHD standard and some can be proxy files, so you need to duplicate the original structure.
Also, the software you use may carry out file conversions when it copies files to and from the SD card to the PC etc.
The M2TS files originate from when imported to Play Memories Home software.Where did the M2TS files come from?
What about the card you are putting into the TV which then plays in 2D? Does the filestructure and filenames all match the camcorder SD card?
There are various folders used to store video files within the AVCHD standard and some can be proxy files, so you need to duplicate the original structure.
Also, the software you use may carry out file conversions when it copies files to and from the SD card to the PC etc.
Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Saturday 20th August 15:01
I inserted a USB stick into the TV which had files copied from those imported onto my laptop from the SD card. I am presuming that what you say about the software carrying out file conversions when data is copied from the SD card may be the problem I am having here?
How to get around this is the issue.
We are going to experiment with the loading of the data onto Play Memories Home as early indications are that the data has been imported in 3d. Although I suspect that editing using that may be limiting.
I also want to back up my 3d data onto an expansion drive as well as burning it to bluray discs.
disad-vantage-d said:
I am presuming that what you say about the software carrying out file conversions when data is copied from the SD card may be the problem I am having here?
Yes, i think so.disad-vantage-d said:
How to get around this is the issue.
Don't use the software to import the files to you PC, just copy the all the contents of the original SD cards directly using Windows.disad-vantage-d said:
We are going to experiment with the loading of the data onto Play Memories Home as early indications are that the data has been imported in 3d. Although I suspect that editing using that may be limiting.
I also want to back up my 3d data onto an expansion drive as well as burning it to bluray discs.
The vast majority of bundled conversion/import/management/editing software is junk. Try not to use Play Memories if you can help it. there should be other (Googleable) ways to do what you want to do.I also want to back up my 3d data onto an expansion drive as well as burning it to bluray discs.
Backing up and burning are two different things of course. Burning to BR will require a file conversion of some sort.
At least if you have a direct copy of the SD cards on your PC, you can then go ahead and free the space up on your cards, which was one of your original objectives
FurtiveFreddy said:
disad-vantage-d said:
I am presuming that what you say about the software carrying out file conversions when data is copied from the SD card may be the problem I am having here?
Yes, i think so.disad-vantage-d said:
How to get around this is the issue.
Don't use the software to import the files to you PC, just copy the all the contents of the original SD cards directly using Windows.disad-vantage-d said:
We are going to experiment with the loading of the data onto Play Memories Home as early indications are that the data has been imported in 3d. Although I suspect that editing using that may be limiting.
I also want to back up my 3d data onto an expansion drive as well as burning it to bluray discs.
The vast majority of bundled conversion/import/management/editing software is junk. Try not to use Play Memories if you can help it. there should be other (Googleable) ways to do what you want to do.I also want to back up my 3d data onto an expansion drive as well as burning it to bluray discs.
Backing up and burning are two different things of course. Burning to BR will require a file conversion of some sort.
At least if you have a direct copy of the SD cards on your PC, you can then go ahead and free the space up on your cards, which was one of your original objectives
I am not the most IT savvy person, so you may have to bear with me!
I was of the understanding that I had copied the files directly to Windows in the first instance and they appeared to have copied in 2D?
I note what you say about bundled software and appreciate that it may not be the best. However, upon copying one of the SD cards onto Play Memories they do at least appear to be in 3d, which is some progress.
I had googled this issue and hadn't had much success, hence my posting here. But I now know more about the file types involved and armed with this will research further.
I had considered purchasing software to enable editing etc. but Sony Vegas Pro 13 is nearly £200, which is rather steep considering my basic requirements.
Are you suggesting that I am going to encounter further difficulties when I come to the point of burning my 3d data to BD?
FurtiveFreddy said:
Which BR recorder/player do you have?
Panasonic DMR-BWT735 Some time ago I copied the 3D files direct from the SD card using the Panasonic with a view to writing them to bluray disc. Unfortunately, this resulted in them being converted to 2D.
Although the Panny will play the SD data in 3D, it will not copy it as such.
A quick Google reveals this, which might solve your problems (trial is free, and it's only $30 to buy).
http://www.brorsoft.com/how-to/convert-edit-3d-mts...
The problem with all of this is that Sony (and some others) produced a product which was a bit niche and not intended for the professional market, so when the whole 3D thing faded away, those products were not properly supported and no new software is going to be developed by the manufacturers.
The .MTS files produced by your Sony camcorder use a video format called 3D AVCHD. Googling that term might help you find more information.
When you try and import the 3D .MTS files into other hardware/software which doesn't natively support 3D AVCHD, it has to convert them into something else. It seems your Panasonic BR recorder/player does support AVCHD 3D Progressive, so that's good but it may be your smart TV doesn't when using the SD card slot.
Either way, it looks like you should be able to transfer the 3D versions to your Panasonic's HDD and/or burn them to Blu-Ray.
If you can crack the editing part using the software I've linked to above, then you should have a solution and you can bin Home Memories, which I would suggest is a good thing.
http://www.brorsoft.com/how-to/convert-edit-3d-mts...
The problem with all of this is that Sony (and some others) produced a product which was a bit niche and not intended for the professional market, so when the whole 3D thing faded away, those products were not properly supported and no new software is going to be developed by the manufacturers.
The .MTS files produced by your Sony camcorder use a video format called 3D AVCHD. Googling that term might help you find more information.
When you try and import the 3D .MTS files into other hardware/software which doesn't natively support 3D AVCHD, it has to convert them into something else. It seems your Panasonic BR recorder/player does support AVCHD 3D Progressive, so that's good but it may be your smart TV doesn't when using the SD card slot.
Either way, it looks like you should be able to transfer the 3D versions to your Panasonic's HDD and/or burn them to Blu-Ray.
If you can crack the editing part using the software I've linked to above, then you should have a solution and you can bin Home Memories, which I would suggest is a good thing.
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