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Bird shit - should it be cleaned off asap? I heard it can ruin the paint job permanently if left for too long, but is this really the case?
Rollbars - been thinking about these since my girlfriends sister rolled her car a few weeks back. Steering just locked and off the road she went, 3 times over! Who has them, and did you get them installed purely for safety, would anyone install them for looks/more rigidity, anyone planning on getting them for either reason, and they cost about £500 right, do they add much value to the car?
Finally, my knob vibrates. If I dont get it fixed, I suppose I could always use that remark to pick up chicks but I digress...
When going slow, when I come off the gas (usually in second) I get a sound from the gear knob which is *Exactly* the same as the hyperdrive when it fails in the Millennium Falcon from the Star Wars movies. Does anyone elses S do this? Rob
Rollbars - been thinking about these since my girlfriends sister rolled her car a few weeks back. Steering just locked and off the road she went, 3 times over! Who has them, and did you get them installed purely for safety, would anyone install them for looks/more rigidity, anyone planning on getting them for either reason, and they cost about £500 right, do they add much value to the car?
Finally, my knob vibrates. If I dont get it fixed, I suppose I could always use that remark to pick up chicks but I digress...
When going slow, when I come off the gas (usually in second) I get a sound from the gear knob which is *Exactly* the same as the hyperdrive when it fails in the Millennium Falcon from the Star Wars movies. Does anyone elses S do this? Rob
ukbob said:
Bird shit - should it be cleaned off asap? I heard it can ruin the paint job permanently if left for too long, but is this really the case?
Rollbars - been thinking about these since my girlfriends sister rolled her car a few weeks back. Steering just locked and off the road she went, 3 times over! Who has them, and did you get them installed purely for safety, would anyone install them for looks/more rigidity, anyone planning on getting them for either reason, and they cost about £500 right, do they add much value to the car?
Finally, my knob vibrates. If I dont get it fixed, I suppose I could always use that remark to pick up chicks but I digress...
When going slow, when I come off the gas (usually in second) I get a sound from the gear knob which is *Exactly* the same as the hyperdrive when it fails in the Millennium Falcon from the Star Wars movies. Does anyone elses S do this? Rob
Hey Bob, I have a roll bar and although I didnt like the look of it when I bought the car I have left it due to safety! I have had mine trimmed to match the interior, and IMHO doesnt look too bad now! See pics
As for the gear know, does it have an after market know (steady podie) a one with grub screws??? If so it could be somethign as silly as one grub screw not tight enough and vibrating, mine did this occasionally in the S2 if it came loose!
Mike
I have the same rollbar as V8Smith on my V8S. I'm not convinced about the aesthetics (mines not upholstered), but for safety purposes it stays. I reckon that windscreen would fold flat if you did flip the car!
...also, I'm told, it adds considerably to the rigidity and changes the 'feel' of the car dramatically.
Pete
...also, I'm told, it adds considerably to the rigidity and changes the 'feel' of the car dramatically.
Pete
pstruck said:
I have the same rollbar as V8Smith on my V8S. I'm not convinced about the aesthetics (mines not upholstered), but for safety purposes it stays. I reckon that windscreen would fold flat if you did flip the car!
...also, I'm told, it adds considerably to the rigidity and changes the 'feel' of the car dramatically.
Pete
I totally agree with Pete, I still think the car looks better without the roll bar! But like Pete I have been told by other V8S owners that my car does feel more solid because of the roll bar fixing to the chassis!
Mike
I kinda liked the look of the roll bar to be honest, but Im not so sure now. Does the bar get in the way of your head at all, im 6'2. Ill have a look for the screws and see if I can find a loose one.
Took the car out again tonight, the juddering doesnt feel great, you can hear and sometimes feel the car misfiring, I really wish it was sorted. Half of me loves the car for obvious reasons, the other half of me hasn't had a chance yet, as Ive still got problems.
I cleaned the shit off the car - thats about as far as my maintenance abilities go
Couple more questions... Ive got a manual override switch to turn the fan on, I believe its not standard. Anyone else got one? Also, at what temp should (should not does) the fan kick in at on a V8S?
Also, if I get powerbulbs, will they suck the battory twice as hard? I read posts about TIV's sometimes not starting after 3 weeks of not being used, would I benefit from use of a solar trickle charger, and are they any good/ necessary?
Edited to say Im trying not to drive much at all, due to the juddering till its sorted, and worrying as im sure the starter motor takes a few more kicks before the car starts... not sure if this is down to it not being used much, and when used, only round town once, have not had any proper journeys in it in ages.
>> Edited by ukbob on Thursday 5th August 22:53
Took the car out again tonight, the juddering doesnt feel great, you can hear and sometimes feel the car misfiring, I really wish it was sorted. Half of me loves the car for obvious reasons, the other half of me hasn't had a chance yet, as Ive still got problems.
I cleaned the shit off the car - thats about as far as my maintenance abilities go
Couple more questions... Ive got a manual override switch to turn the fan on, I believe its not standard. Anyone else got one? Also, at what temp should (should not does) the fan kick in at on a V8S?
Also, if I get powerbulbs, will they suck the battory twice as hard? I read posts about TIV's sometimes not starting after 3 weeks of not being used, would I benefit from use of a solar trickle charger, and are they any good/ necessary?
Edited to say Im trying not to drive much at all, due to the juddering till its sorted, and worrying as im sure the starter motor takes a few more kicks before the car starts... not sure if this is down to it not being used much, and when used, only round town once, have not had any proper journeys in it in ages.
>> Edited by ukbob on Thursday 5th August 22:53
Los Angeles said:
The car might look better without the roll bar, but what would Bob look like without his head? 
(Actually, I don't think it's a laughing matter.)
So long as I dont have to chop it off to get in the car when a roll bars been fitted...
Edited to say Mike, your rollbar looks really nice by the way. I kinda like the bar itself, but refer specifically to the leatherwork thats been done. it does look good, imho
>> Edited by ukbob on Thursday 5th August 22:58
I understand the knobs tend to vibrate because of the linkage used by TvR to move the gear lever forward from its original position on the box.A result of mounting the engine as far back as poss to give even weight distribution. Some cars will be better than others, worn mounts are likely to make the problem worse.I don`t think its anything to worry about.
Bird poo is a big problem when they have been at the elderberries & its purple its more acidic than normal.
Bird poo is a big problem when they have been at the elderberries & its purple its more acidic than normal.
ukbob said:
Couple more questions... Ive got a manual override switch to turn the fan on, I believe its not standard. Anyone else got one? Also, at what temp should (should not does) the fan kick in at on a V8S?
Also, if I get powerbulbs, will they suck the battory twice as hard? I read posts about TIV's sometimes not starting after 3 weeks of not being used, would I benefit from use of a solar trickle charger, and are they any good/ necessary?
Edited to say Im trying not to drive much at all, due to the juddering till its sorted, and worrying as im sure the starter motor takes a few more kicks before the car starts... not sure if this is down to it not being used much, and when used, only round town once, have not had any proper journeys in it in ages.
>> Edited by ukbob on Thursday 5th August 22:53
Dunno about the V8S, but the S comes on at about 92 degrees, I believe.
Re bulbs. Higher wattage bulbs than standard will draw more current when turned on, obviously. Unless you turn the lights on with the engine off, the alternator will have enough surplus to replace the extra current draw of a couple of bulbs. Don't worry about it.
My experience from chatting with other TIV owners seems to be that ALL TVRs suffer from a slight trickle drain on the battery during periods of non-use. How long the battery lasts will depend on the condition of the battery to start with, the condition of the car's electrics (any current leaks, for instance), what is drawing current when the car is not being driven (such as an alarm, immobiliser, clock} etc. Whether you need a trickle charger remains to be seen - depends how long you plan on leaving the car between drives and the factors listed above.
Re you last point - Cars need to be driven. Once the V8's juddering has been sorted - drive it !!
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Yep. Makes sense, and for sure What about the smaller GPS devices, dashboard mounted ones, do they suck much current at all? I'd like one of those, as my map reading skills...suck. (just an excuse to buy a solar charger)
Ive got a battory which needs topping up with distilled water. Can anyone explain the difference between that and a "normal" batt? I dont know much about either, but gather there are two different kinds of batts. This one is nearly new, im told...
What about the smaller GPS devices, dashboard mounted ones, do they suck much current at all? I'd like one of those, as my map reading skills...suck. (just an excuse to buy a solar charger) Ive got a battory which needs topping up with distilled water. Can anyone explain the difference between that and a "normal" batt? I dont know much about either, but gather there are two different kinds of batts. This one is nearly new, im told...
Manual fan override switch is an extra. Many owners fits them for that extra 'peace of mind'.
Fan on/off temp varies depending on what 'otter switch' you have fitted. I have recently put a slightly lower set one in my V8S and it controls the temperature perfectly.
Beware though... if yours is anyhting like mine, when the fan cuts in it makes the temp gauge jump up slightly, giving a false higher reading (just a TADTS thing)! - Nothing to worry about once you're used to it.
Pete
Fan on/off temp varies depending on what 'otter switch' you have fitted. I have recently put a slightly lower set one in my V8S and it controls the temperature perfectly.
Beware though... if yours is anyhting like mine, when the fan cuts in it makes the temp gauge jump up slightly, giving a false higher reading (just a TADTS thing)! - Nothing to worry about once you're used to it.
Pete
ukbob said:
Yep. Makes sense, and for sure
Ive got a battory which needs topping up with distilled water. Can anyone explain the difference between that and a "normal" batt? I dont know much about either, but gather there are two different kinds of batts. This one is nearly new, im told...
GPS - Will probably be 12v powered from the cigarette lighter socket. Just unplug the power adaptor when not in use.
Current draw - the only time this becomes relevant is if devices (such as headlights) are on with the engine turned off. With the engine on, the alternator is constantly recharging the battery and will have enough 'headroom' to cope in the event of everything electrical turned on, even high current devices such as fans or headlights. Don't worry about it.
Some batteries do need to be topped up with distilled water ie. not maintenance free. If yours is one of these, keep an eye on the water level and make sure it does not drop below the plates within each compartment.
If you are determined to buy a solar charger, try www.cpc.co.uk Type Power Saver Pro or Battery Saver Pro (sorry, can't remember which) into a search box. I've bought a couple of these on behalf of caravanning mates (no stick please) and they certainly do the business for trickle charging a battery. You probably wouldn't require anything more than the 5w version.
Hope this helps
Wobbly Knob syndrome is quite common on the S series...
The most common fault is the securing of an after market Knob.
Because most after market ones do not have a specific thread they have a inner sleeve which screws securely onto the stick.... Then the knob is located over the sleeve and secured with a couple of Allen Screws.
It is normally these screws which work loose.
Mine felt tight but on the stick but also used to vibrate at certain revs...
This would be the first thing that I would check...
Dave
The most common fault is the securing of an after market Knob.
Because most after market ones do not have a specific thread they have a inner sleeve which screws securely onto the stick.... Then the knob is located over the sleeve and secured with a couple of Allen Screws.
It is normally these screws which work loose.
Mine felt tight but on the stick but also used to vibrate at certain revs...
This would be the first thing that I would check...
Dave
Bird poo - remove immediately, especially on cars our colour.
Roll bars, check with you insurance first. Some take a dim view of it. Their reasoning, once fitted you will drive faster as you are safer when you roll over.
Hyperdrive. Try and tighten the gear knob. Also if you fail to engage try checking your hyperdrive motivator or your R2 unit. If all else fails hit the dash and it may kinck into life
Roll bars, check with you insurance first. Some take a dim view of it. Their reasoning, once fitted you will drive faster as you are safer when you roll over.
Hyperdrive. Try and tighten the gear knob. Also if you fail to engage try checking your hyperdrive motivator or your R2 unit. If all else fails hit the dash and it may kinck into life
Re:- Rattly knob syndrome.
The original Ford Sierra style knob was fine it didn't buzz at all.
I now have an alloy aftermarket job and it did buzz (badly), so I took it off again and filled it with black silicone sealer and re-fitted it and also put a dab of superglue on the allen key screws to stop them undoing themselves over time and mine has a collar that fits over the screws so none of this can be seen.
I now have a nice solid knob (cue Podie joke) and no buzzing at all!
The original Ford Sierra style knob was fine it didn't buzz at all.
I now have an alloy aftermarket job and it did buzz (badly), so I took it off again and filled it with black silicone sealer and re-fitted it and also put a dab of superglue on the allen key screws to stop them undoing themselves over time and mine has a collar that fits over the screws so none of this can be seen.
I now have a nice solid knob (cue Podie joke) and no buzzing at all!
WildfireS3 said:
Hyperdrive. Try and tighten the gear knob. Also if you fail to engage try checking your hyperdrive motivator or your R2 unit. If all else fails hit the dash and it may kinck into life
Still using the old R2 unit Chris
no wonder your having problems. 
now were can i download a darth vader smileyRe: - The paint and jerking.
Best to clean off the poo as soon as possible, especially on the roof!
Paint can also be damaged by poo so best to tackle with warm water ASAP too.
The jerking is a pain in the butt as I know but you'll get to the bottom of it soon.
One thing to remember is that if you didn't buy a perfect car then it will take a bit of time to get it how you want it to be. If you don't drive it daily then there is less opportunity for faults to develop and you can keep on top of your improvements and enhancements. What I'm getting at really is summed up by the expression "Rome wasn't built in a day".
You'll also need to think about whether there are things that you "need to do or would "like to do". I need new shocks and springs to get over speed humps where I'm moving to so that's top of the list along with exhaust mods to gain more ground clearance. The shocks and springs fall outside of my current budget so I'll have to sort the exhaust first and hope that works with the speed humps for a while, then do the shocks/springs next year. Both myself and my wife are well paid but we are taking on a big mortgage now so I have to remember that I must now wait to do some things to the car. The important thing is that I still have my TVR sitting in the garage or on the drive.
I have had some really nice compliments on my car but to me it's a fair way off how I want it to be but I have to be realistic with the budget at the moment, I still have a lovely car in the garage and it'll still be there in a few weeks or months time when I have the dough to carry on with what I need or want to do.
So, stick with it mate and don't be in too much of a rush, it'll all come together in the end. You'll always enjoy the car even if you don't regard it as totally finished.
And one final thing, if you ever decide to sell it just go for a spin and you'll soon change your mind!
>> Edited by kentishS2 on Friday 6th August 10:03
Best to clean off the poo as soon as possible, especially on the roof!
Paint can also be damaged by poo so best to tackle with warm water ASAP too.
The jerking is a pain in the butt as I know but you'll get to the bottom of it soon.
One thing to remember is that if you didn't buy a perfect car then it will take a bit of time to get it how you want it to be. If you don't drive it daily then there is less opportunity for faults to develop and you can keep on top of your improvements and enhancements. What I'm getting at really is summed up by the expression "Rome wasn't built in a day".
You'll also need to think about whether there are things that you "need to do or would "like to do". I need new shocks and springs to get over speed humps where I'm moving to so that's top of the list along with exhaust mods to gain more ground clearance. The shocks and springs fall outside of my current budget so I'll have to sort the exhaust first and hope that works with the speed humps for a while, then do the shocks/springs next year. Both myself and my wife are well paid but we are taking on a big mortgage now so I have to remember that I must now wait to do some things to the car. The important thing is that I still have my TVR sitting in the garage or on the drive.
I have had some really nice compliments on my car but to me it's a fair way off how I want it to be but I have to be realistic with the budget at the moment, I still have a lovely car in the garage and it'll still be there in a few weeks or months time when I have the dough to carry on with what I need or want to do.
So, stick with it mate and don't be in too much of a rush, it'll all come together in the end. You'll always enjoy the car even if you don't regard it as totally finished.
And one final thing, if you ever decide to sell it just go for a spin and you'll soon change your mind!
>> Edited by kentishS2 on Friday 6th August 10:03
Thanks for your comments about my roll bar Bob, I covered the roll bar myself, quite happy with the job I mad of it!! I have declared my roll bar to the insurance and it did not increase the premium!
I have a manual switch for the fan, the previous owner fitted it! The fan normally kicks in at around 90-95 degress about the same as the V6 IIRC. The manual fan switch is only really necassary if its a very hot day and you are stuck in jams, the V8 likes to be on the move, if not it gets hot!
As for the Battery, buy a 'Non Maintenance' battery, they are much better. I have fitted the larger capacity battery used in the Grif/Chim this will eliminate any problems you might face! The standard battery is the '069' My new one is the '072' IIRC its in the Bible anyway!
Mike
I have a manual switch for the fan, the previous owner fitted it! The fan normally kicks in at around 90-95 degress about the same as the V6 IIRC. The manual fan switch is only really necassary if its a very hot day and you are stuck in jams, the V8 likes to be on the move, if not it gets hot!
As for the Battery, buy a 'Non Maintenance' battery, they are much better. I have fitted the larger capacity battery used in the Grif/Chim this will eliminate any problems you might face! The standard battery is the '069' My new one is the '072' IIRC its in the Bible anyway!
Mike
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