Brake cylinder question

[SteveOS3]

Having read the topic here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I know I have the type 3 cylinder.

But, the only number I can see is one on the white cap and it's not one of the ones listed:



Does this mean there's one missing off the list? I can't find any reference to the number I have on the net.

Just want to be sure before I go ahead and order one.

Thanks,

Steve

[phillpot]

I suspect that could be the part number for that plastic fitting?


The master cylinders often have a lose plastic band around them (imagine a cross between a cable tie and a charity bracelet thing) with part number on.


Better than my dodgy description, here's a photo of one...........

[SteveOS3]

Cheers Philpott, just rotated the 'cable tie', it's got 6519 077 stamped on it.

[greymrj]

Regrettably the number on that tie isnt always going to help. If you check it with the thread identifying the three types it doesnt match. Not the first time that has happened. Can you include a photo of the complete assembly, i.e. servo, master cylinder, piping and fluid reservoir?

[SteveOS3]

Hopefully these show enough.

There are five feeds to the cylinder and one bleed screw.

two pipes with green tape of the far right

one pipe without tape

two pipes with white caps

bleed screw in photo 4

Steve

Photo 1



Photo2



Photo 3



Photo 4

[phillpot]

SteveOS3 said:

There are five feeds to the cylinder and one bleed screw.

There are two feeds to the cylinder (white caps)


And three feeds from the cylinder (copper pipes)

Most forward two should go one to each front caliper and the rear one to rear brakes ( with that nice neat pipework should be easy enough to follow them ). I don't believe there is any need to have a bleed nipple there, I think it is just an easy way to bung up a spare hole!

[greymrj]

That is a bit odd. You have the remote reservoir of the SAAB type. We do know that a few later cars did have SAAB rather than Ford sourced servo/mastercylinder units but I would be surprised to find one on an S3. If it was a SAAB unit then the master cylinder is TRW part PMH237, which would be very hard to find indeed. I am going to try to enlarge the picture and have another look later.

[phillpot]

greymrj said:

I would be surprised to find one on an S3.

My S3, albeit a very early one, had the messy remote reservoir set up when I bought it.

[SteveOS3]

Plenty come up on a search of Ebay etc, all around the £100 mark.

[greymrj]

Steve, I did notice that the servo appears a bit rusty. If it is like that on top you should check the underneath, that is where they go. If you can afford it you should think of changing the two. I do know someone who has a new original servo/mastercylinder complete unit that he doesnt need any more, and could put you in touch.

[SteveOS3]

I'd be more than happy to replace the pair so if you can put me in touch I'd appreciate it.

Steve

[mentall]

phillpot said:

My S3, albeit a very early one, had the messy remote reservoir set up when I bought it.

Mine, too, too.

[AutoAndy]

mentall said:

phillpot said:

My S3, albeit a very early one, had the messy remote reservoir set up when I bought it.

Mine, too, too.

My S3C ! also had the Saab one...After doing all the research, I couldn't locate a new replacement anywhere and when down the conversion to Ford Fiesta Mk3 route, which entailed changing to a matching servo as well (See the thread about doing this)....not cheap!

...there have been other threads recently about people using Ford Ka ones...but you will need to check.

[mentall]

...there have been other threads recently about people using Ford Ka ones...but you will need to check.


[/quote]

I can talk to you about the Ka option, but it's not tested yet so don't want to post. PM me if interested.

[greymrj]

SteveOS3 said:

I'd be more than happy to replace the pair so if you can put me in touch I'd appreciate it.

Steve

Hi Steve, could you email me please and I will let you have the contact details

[SteveOS3]

Email sent.

[SteveOS3]

For information:

I've found these links to the Saab servo and master cylinder:

http://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/2210976

http://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/trw-2208711.html

They match the part numbers in

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

It seems that the parts aren't unavailable/discontinued any more.

SteveO

[greymrj]

Well done Steve, I am utterly amazed by that. If these guys do prove to have these parts then I wonder where they have appeared from? A few of us have tried to find them without success, and have even bought from abroad. Price is quite fair too. If you decide to check them out then please let me know the result as soon as you can, this could be of immediate value to a few other members.

[SteveOS3]

Will be ordering tomorrow hopefully. I'll keep you posted
Steve

[SteveOS3]

SteveOS3 said:

Will be ordering tomorrow hopefully. I'll keep you posted
Steve

There's a Bosch master cylinder from the same people as the servo and it's £27 cheaper.

http://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/1166955