Garage Rebuild (Hopefully)
Discussion
I wonder if anyone can help.
I live in a typical eighties house with a typical eighties detached double garage. It is a single skin brick built effort with a tiled roof. Unfortunately, it leaks like a sieve and is so shoddily built that it almost fails in its role as a garage (not enough joists, rear wall coming away from the side, the list goes on).
I want to rebuild it as a warm(ish), dry and well lit area where I can work happily on my car and bikes through the winter. I also want to swap my two up and over doors for a single large electric job. I set myself a budget of £10,000 and I've had a number of builders round for quotes. However, without me even telling them what my budget is, for some reason only one has bothered to come back with a quote and that was so a bit rich for me. The rest didn't even bother to get back to me - good to see the building trade is in such rude health!
Two questions - has anyone had a garage built or rebuilt recently and can they recommend anyone and secondly, even though the budget is not set in stone, am I kidding myself that I can build one for £10,000?
I live in the Gosport/Fareham area
Any advice or information gratefully received.
I live in a typical eighties house with a typical eighties detached double garage. It is a single skin brick built effort with a tiled roof. Unfortunately, it leaks like a sieve and is so shoddily built that it almost fails in its role as a garage (not enough joists, rear wall coming away from the side, the list goes on).
I want to rebuild it as a warm(ish), dry and well lit area where I can work happily on my car and bikes through the winter. I also want to swap my two up and over doors for a single large electric job. I set myself a budget of £10,000 and I've had a number of builders round for quotes. However, without me even telling them what my budget is, for some reason only one has bothered to come back with a quote and that was so a bit rich for me. The rest didn't even bother to get back to me - good to see the building trade is in such rude health!
Two questions - has anyone had a garage built or rebuilt recently and can they recommend anyone and secondly, even though the budget is not set in stone, am I kidding myself that I can build one for £10,000?
I live in the Gosport/Fareham area
Any advice or information gratefully received.
doorman said:
Should have started here
Ironically it was the thread about garage doors that made me realise this might be a good place to ask the question. (I'm a bit slow...)I'd already decided where I was going to get my door!
You're right though. Can't think why I didn't just drop you a line.
wotnot said:
doorman said:
Should have started here
Ironically it was the thread about garage doors that made me realise this might be a good place to ask the question. (I'm a bit slow...)I'd already decided where I was going to get my door!
You're right though. Can't think why I didn't just drop you a line.
wotnot said:
Hmmm. Maybe not then.
I'm just having a new 'manshed' built.I suppose you've got a decent base to put yours on which will help with cost.
I've built mine on what was previously garden, so I had a 150mm base built and its a timber shed, hopefully warmer and less damp than single skinned brick plus it didn't require planning.
The fact that is literally a rebuild means that the base is sorted. I was thinking of extending it by a couple of feet but that would involve extending the base and buying more roof tiles (which I'm hoping to re-use) and I'm on a bit of a budget.
I actually looked at wooden (oak) structures initially for the warmth and breathability but soon realised that they are actually quite expensive once you move beyond simple carriage sheds and one of those might look a little pretentious on my estate!
I actually looked at wooden (oak) structures initially for the warmth and breathability but soon realised that they are actually quite expensive once you move beyond simple carriage sheds and one of those might look a little pretentious on my estate!
Mark. said:
Now I'm no building expert - but £10k for a garage? Wonder how much a brick laying course is 
The thought had crossed my mind.It's not that I'm bone idle but by the time I'd factored in dismantling it, disposing of the vast majority of it, rebuilding on a weekend only basis (I spend most weekdays away), insulation, rewiring, and all the other bits and pieces, not to mention storing the vehicles and equipment already in it, I figured it would be easier to get someone to do it.
Maybe I'm being naive but I thought £10k would suffice for a garage. The one quote so far is an awful long way north of that!
wotnot said:
Two questions - has anyone had a garage built or rebuilt recently and can they recommend anyone and secondly, even though the budget is not set in stone, am I kidding myself that I can build one for £10,000?
A basic single maybe. I would think a well-built double would be twice that.Have you looked online at the many and varied prefab options?
Manks said:
A basic single maybe. I would think a well-built double would be twice that.
Have you looked online at the many and varied prefab options?
Wow, if that's true I really was kidding myself! Makes my one quote look reasonable....Have you looked online at the many and varied prefab options?
To be honest I hadn't really looked at the prefab options at this stage because I was hoping to get the kind of garage I already have, but built properly, within the budget I'd set myself. Plus, whenever I think of prefab, I have this vision of sectioned concrete which I was hoping to avoid.
Having just quickly looked online, I feel I may have been doing the prefab garage indutry a bit of a diservice! Some of them look pretty decent.
For reference, my new 'manshed' is 18ft wide by 24ft long.
150mm base with a membrane, lots of steel and a powerfloated top. 11 new fence panels and posts. Demolishing the old single brick garage, digging up the old garage base and removing it, dragging the left over topsoil level. Came to £2000.
Tree surgeon was £50 on a Saturday morning.
Shed is 2 by 4 studwork, 2 by 8 roof joists with firings, 19mm osb roof, 3 layers felt, 19mm by 150mm shiplap cladding. Timber came to about £2100.
Chippy is about £600.
Roofer about £600.
About £5500 all in.
150mm base with a membrane, lots of steel and a powerfloated top. 11 new fence panels and posts. Demolishing the old single brick garage, digging up the old garage base and removing it, dragging the left over topsoil level. Came to £2000.
Tree surgeon was £50 on a Saturday morning.
Shed is 2 by 4 studwork, 2 by 8 roof joists with firings, 19mm osb roof, 3 layers felt, 19mm by 150mm shiplap cladding. Timber came to about £2100.
Chippy is about £600.
Roofer about £600.
About £5500 all in.
That is one mightily impressive 'manshed' fella. I'm quite jealous as it's a good size bigger than my garage. Mine is only 5m x 5m with very limited room to expand on that thanks to most of it being in next door's garden.
On the advice of Manks, I've been looking at prefab garages and think this could well be the way forward. I need to do some research to see if there is a documented downside to this but they certainly look great value for money.
Quite like the idea of a tragic accident, think I need to check my policy
On the advice of Manks, I've been looking at prefab garages and think this could well be the way forward. I need to do some research to see if there is a documented downside to this but they certainly look great value for money.
Quite like the idea of a tragic accident, think I need to check my policy
Let us know how you get on with the Prefab garage or the "accident". haha!
I have a single garage but im planning to widen it by 3 ft and lengthen it forwards 4 ft to then "join" upto the edge of the house, making a secure garden. For this i will knock down the front and side, lay an "extension" cement base and then lay a new side wall and front with the garage door.
Im budgeting around £5k for this while hoping to do as much of the work as i can myself & friends (brickies luckily).
But a pre fab garage to just drop in would save alot of faf!
I have a single garage but im planning to widen it by 3 ft and lengthen it forwards 4 ft to then "join" upto the edge of the house, making a secure garden. For this i will knock down the front and side, lay an "extension" cement base and then lay a new side wall and front with the garage door.
Im budgeting around £5k for this while hoping to do as much of the work as i can myself & friends (brickies luckily).
But a pre fab garage to just drop in would save alot of faf!
Manks said:
A basic single maybe. I would think a well-built double would be twice that.
Have you looked online at the many and varied prefab options?
really?Have you looked online at the many and varied prefab options?
Assuming a flat roof and mainly block construction the materials aren't going to be that expensive and the building hardly complicated or likely to take long.
The day of £300 a day brickies are long gone so I'm just interested in the calculation.
To the OP - I'd build it with cheap blocks and then timber clad it. Maybe use brick corner piers if appearance matters.
9mm said:
really?
Assuming a flat roof and mainly block construction the materials aren't going to be that expensive and the building hardly complicated or likely to take long.
The day of £300 a day brickies are long gone so I'm just interested in the calculation.
To the OP - I'd build it with cheap blocks and then timber clad it. Maybe use brick corner piers if appearance matters.
Sure you can use blocks and a flat roof. But if you want a garage that looks respectable: A double, brick faced, tiled pitched roof, power, water and electric doors you're looking at circa 20k round here. That's with brickies at 140.Assuming a flat roof and mainly block construction the materials aren't going to be that expensive and the building hardly complicated or likely to take long.
The day of £300 a day brickies are long gone so I'm just interested in the calculation.
To the OP - I'd build it with cheap blocks and then timber clad it. Maybe use brick corner piers if appearance matters.
Manks said:
Sure you can use blocks and a flat roof. But if you want a garage that looks respectable: A double, brick faced, tiled pitched roof, power, water and electric doors you're looking at circa 20k round here. That's with brickies at 140.
Seems you're right. I've just had another quote and that is just short of £20k excluding VAT.After some extensive(ish) research I've decided against a prefab for the very reasons above. I'm going to contact the builder who gave me the first quote, see if I can skim a bit off and see when he can start.
I appreciate that there is a load of cash to be saved if I muck in with donkey work but I'm simply not around often enough and time is of the essence, not least because my garage is effectively my neighbour's garden wall.
Thanks for the input guys, I'll let you know how it goes and send a piccie in when it's finished.
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